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ginnyrose
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 Re: US Will Collapse & Split Into Six Parts in 2010 -

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Do you believe this..



Well, Khrushchev said back in the 1960's they -the USSR - will bury us, the USA. That was over 40 years ago and it ain't happened yet.

If communism is so wonderful, why are they so eager to see our demise as a nation? And if they would succeed I would suspect it would be in shambles just like the USSR was. For example, in the Ukraine during the 1800's, it was considered the breadbasket of Europe. After the Bolshevik revolution it could never produce the grain it once did - had to rely on imports. Now go figure...

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Sandra Miller

 2009/4/25 14:12Profile
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While the Russian economy continues to tumble, Igor Panarin, a Russian professor, is being pushed out into the limelight of Putin's state media to make bold predictions of a United States collapse in 2010.

So what's the professor got to say? He believes that when times get tough, rich states like California and New York will withhold funds from the federal government, which would lead to collapse and civil war. The U.S. would thus dissolve into six distinct parts:

Atlantic America: Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Vermont, New York, West Virginia, Virginia, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina, the District of Columbia, and Tennesee. He says they might even join the European Union.
The Central-North American Republic: Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana. He says this area would be a part of Canada or under Canadian influence.
The Californian Republic: California, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Utah, and Arizona. He says this will be part of China or under Chinese influence.
The Texas Republic: Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. He says this will be part of Mexico or under Mexican influence.
Alaska: According to Panarin, Alaska would go back to Russia.
Hawaii: According to Panarin, Hawaii would fall under Japanese or Chinese control.
Now, Panarin didn't just come up with this theory overnight. Instead, he's been predicting the U.S.'s collapse in 2010 for about a decade now. No one has taken him very seriously, but now he's finally found a captive audience: Russian state media. Nothing works better than a little propaganda to distract and convince the masses that while your country is falling to shambles, your old rival has got it worse.

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Do you believe this..



No I do not believe this will happen. I think it is more than likely we will see an economic/political North American Union of some kind before something like that will happen.

It is a common consensus among true Christians that we are living in the very last of the last days - the days just before the Great Tribulation.

Is the USA in bible prophecy? I believe I can show that the answer is yes, and it might surprise some of you, but I am hesitant to share this here on this forum. I believe that if the body of Christ knew how close we are to the second coming of our Lord, we would be getting our houses in order very very quickly (at least the luke-warm ones sitting on the fence). It's terrible that some do not take their Christianity seriously, and I am not saying that about the people here, just Christianity in general.


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 2009/4/25 14:27Profile
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Is the USA in bible prophecy? I believe I can show that the answer is yes, and it might surprise some of you, but I am hesitant to share this here on this forum.



I am going to ask you what you have in mind here, not that I disagree, but am curious to know what you are thinking.

One thing that is common is that when things get bad here in the USA people are very quick to say the end must be near because we are seeing some terrible things, never considering that others elsewhere have it much worst.

Another thing about this Russian professor - I read the article and the comments that followed...I know if someone would have personally told me this, I would have laughed out loud. But reading it in print it takes on a somber tone; it is the motivation that is propelling such a prediction that could give one cause for concern. On the surface it is an absurdity, the height of ridiculousness and ignorance. However, if you float a ridiculous idea long enough someone somewhere will start thinking about it seriously and he/she will start talking about it where it will move into the realm of "let's think about it - perhaps this idea has merit". This has happened to issues like gay-marriages, infanticide, euthanasia. Peter Singer is promoting the idea one should consider allowing a parent to have a child killed up to the age of one (or is it one month?) if he/she decides the child is no longer wanted.

See what I mean? If a person can imagine it there is nothing to keep someone from working to this end. And the only thing that can stop it is God.

Am I worried or concerned? No. (I serve a big God.) But I have lived long enough to see how human nature functions and responds to absurdities...until it becomes mainstream.

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Sandra Miller

 2009/4/25 19:08Profile
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Obadiah 1:4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy
nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the
LORD.


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 2009/4/25 22:24Profile









 Re: US Will Collapse & Split Into Six Parts in 2010 -

Do you think that possibly the collapse of the Soviet Union may have influenced this prognosticator?

We do not have borders here, as the incorporation of land masses were generally not associated with violent overthrow of established and ancient governments....[the American Indian tribes do not apply to this maxim, as they did not have a central and established National government, but, as in Afghanistan, were tribal in Nature, and limited in land mass; being based in smaller, local areas..]].... Russia, however, as the Bolsheviks centralized their power, were much more ambitious....and envisioned a world wide revolution of Marxist/socialist ideology and government...with them as the engineers, of course.


Entire people groups were swallowed up, deported from their regions, and a vast land mass with 40 or 50 million souls was conquered, and governed. This philosophy continued until the late 80's. The "Iron Curtain" imploded, and perhaps twenty countries were liberated, and re-instituted' reverting back to the original borders...some to before the Czar was dethroned...circa 1917.[ the Slavic countries, Serbs, Poles, the Croats and Slavs, along with Chechnya , all of the Muslim STAN'S...and the vast regions of the frozen North east..the Ukraine and all lands east to the north and East sea....Four America's in land mass..


So this fellow, saw the confederation crumble, and reform, and I suspect projected this historical fact of his own government's demise and fragmentation, into our future. It will never happen, at least not in this scenario, for like it or not, America is one people group, and our individual ancestry is firmly integrated from coast to coast.


We used to be a Christian country also...which cemented our brotherhood even deeper....but that is ending. There is yet a remnant, however. Jesus is Lord over a few yet, in America.




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