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mythought2u
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 Sabbath day

Roman Catholic and Protestant Confessions about Sunday

The vast majority of Christian churches today teach the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, as a time for rest and worship. Yet it is generally known and freely admitted that the early Christians observed the seventh day as the Sabbath. How did this change come about?

History reveals that it was decades after the death of the apostles that a politico-religious system repudiated the Sabbath of Scripture and substituted the observance of the first day of the week. The following quotations, all from Roman Catholic sources, freely acknowledge that there is no Biblical authority for the observance of Sunday, that it was the Roman Church that changed the Sabbath to the first day of the week.

In the second portion of this booklet are quotations from Protestants. Undoubtedly all of these noted clergymen, scholars, and writers kept Sunday, but they all frankly admit that there is no Biblical authority for a first-day sabbath.
Please "Google" Sabbath day Saturday or Sunday? study it for yourself.

 2008/11/30 16:12Profile
BlazedbyGod
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 Re: Sabbath day

Just curious, have you seen/read the other going thread about the sabbath day, if not, please feel to come by and take a glace and give you view, conviction, and understanding.

Some of what you have spoken here I know to be true as well, I have studied on this for almost 2 years now, and quite extensive at that.

Have you read "Ten Commandments Twice Removed" by Danny Shelton

 2008/11/30 18:56Profile
savannah
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 Re: Danny Shelton

Seventh Day Adventism is far removed from the Gospel of our LORD Jesus Christ and the faith of God's elect revealed in the Scriptures.

As you begin with such a faulty foundation(SDAism), you can't but end with a structure that is anything but solid and biblically sound and founded upon the Rock solid foundation of Jesus Christ and His Gospel of Grace & Truth.

I know who Danny Shelton is and am familiar with his many false doctrines.

To suggest one read his book, "Ten Commandments Twice Removed" is to attempt to lead astray the flock of God to follow a stranger and an hireling.

Once those here on SI become aware of your doctrine they may be better equipped to answer you.

I'd suggest that those on the SI forum learn about the many false teachings and the beginnings of SDAism.

Ellen G. White's writings are the writings who most SDA's revere as she was the founder of this cult.

On the Sabbath issue I'd highly recommend a book by Dale Ratzlaff entitled "Sabbath in Christ" first published under the title "Sabbath in Crisis" in 1990 which is the copy I have.

It is a thorough, inductive, biblical study of the Sabbath, the covenants and the gospel.

"I’m impressed with the clarity, precision, and thoroughness of Dale Ratzlaff’s work. This book is a much-needed treatment of the Sabbath controversy, written with intelligent passion and full of insight and wisdom." (John MacArthur, Pastor, Grace Community Church, Sun Valley, California)

NOTE:

Danny Shelton, President of 3ABN is not a man of integrity to say the least.

Along with his errors of SDAism he has also divorced his wife Linda of 19 years.

The VERIFIED PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE between DANNY LEE SHELTON and LINDA SUE SHELTON may be viewed here: http://www.save-3abn.com/danny-shelton-demise-of-marriage-guam-divorce.htm


Another article on some related facts of this man and his now 2nd ex-wife may be found (Adventist Today Magazine http://www.atoday.com/magazine/2004/05/troubled-3abn-fires-linda-shelton) in an article entitled "Troubled 3ABN Fires Linda Shelton" Dated May 1, 2004 - by Edwin A. Schwisow

I trust that Christ Himself has given, and will give, His Rest and His Peace to His people the 'Israel of God'.

 2008/12/1 9:58Profile
Miccah
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Yes savannah,

There have been many discussions on SI about SDA cult. Many, many here have taught against these false teachings and continue to do so.

Try to realize that many heresies are spoken about here on SI and from time to time, some people continue to try to bring back these things, such as being held under bondage of the law, day worshipping or other things that are not from God.

Thank you for your warning, it is appropriate if not needed again as a reminder of the Truth. As for the day worshippers... keep up the warnings. As children of God we cannot let heresy get a foot hold.


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 2008/12/1 10:43Profile









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It's interesting how cyclical these heresies are. It's almost a "heresy-of-the-month" kinda thing. Last month it was the "there is no Trinity" heresy, this month it's law-bondage Sabbath keeping.

It just goes to show that we need to be ever diligent in contending for the faith.

Krispy

 2008/12/1 10:54
savannah
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 Re: article link removed

Apparently, the link I posted to the article entitled "Troubled 3ABN Fires Linda Shelton" has been removed by the Adventist Today website.

I will post the article in full below, for those interested in reading it.

Troubled 3ABN Fires Linda Shelton
May 1, 2004 - by Edwin A. Schwisow

In a move that consolidates Danny Shelton, president, ever more firmly at the helm of the troubled Three Angels Broadcasting (3ABN) satellite network, the 3ABN board in June voted to dismiss Shelton's now-ex-wife, Linda, from her position as vice president and on-air hostess.

The dismissal came just days before the couple's divorce became final in late June; an uncontested divorce filed in Guam by Danny Shelton, naming Linda as respondent, according to divorce papers obtained by Adventist Today, Linda's dismissal in June was followed immediately by an official release by 3ABN's board chairman, Walter Thompson, to the effect that Linda Shelton had chosen to go a 'different direction' from her husband and 3ABN. The release also said that the decision to terminate had come after considerable study and with the assistance of counselors and face-to-face dialog among the parties.

Concurrent with the announcement, staff removed all photographs and references to Linda Shelton from 3ABN's Web site and struck all programs on which she appears from the station's play lists.

Meanwhile, sources close to Linda Shelton characterize her removal as a coup-in-the-works for several months leading up to the June announcement. They acknowledge that in months leading up to her dismissal, she had been heavily involved in the rehabilitation of her adult son, Nathan (by a previous marriage), who reportedly had developed serious drug- and alcohol-dependency problems.

The therapy routine, administered by a Norwegian Seventh-day Adventist physician and financial supporter of 3ABN, reportedly achieved outstanding early results. According to Linda Shelton, in a release posted July 11 on her Web site, rumors that she had engaged in inappropriately intimate activities with her son's therapist began to circulate at 3ABN, leading in large part to her ouster. She vigorously and consistently denies any improper behavior or relationship with the doctor.

At approximately the same time, Johann Thorvaldson, director of 3ABN development in Europe, was removed from his post and has become an advocate for Linda Shelton. Citing provisions of her agreement with 3ABN, Shelton herself so far has refused to speak with reporters regarding her dismissal or future plans. However, at least two releases written in her name (one on e-mail, the other on her Web site) specifically deny that she committed adultery and attribute her fall to the proliferation of false information about her.

Sources close to Linda Shelton cite the 3ABN allegation of 'spiritual adultery' as a factor in her dismissal, a phrase invoked among conservative Christians but not readily definable elsewhere. It appears to mean that the person so accused became overly friendly with, or bonded to, a person other than a spouse. Meanwhile, Danny Shelton's daughter by a previous marriage, Melody, has begun to appear regularly on the air as a co-host with her father.

Linda Shelton's dismissal took viewers across the nation by complete surprise, though careful observers had begun to pick up on-the-air cues more than a year ago that all was not well between Danny and Linda. Danny Shelton has acknowledged to viewers that the couple was undergoing marriage counseling in months leading up to their sudden divorce.

The Linda-and-Danny team had appeared together for nearly 20 years on 3ABN programs, portraying the kind of down-home, simple, Bible-based, devout Christian living they urged their viewers to adopt. That such an apparently devoted Christian couple could divorce so precipitously, amid such allegations of scandal, shocked the 3ABN world.

At least one affiliate manager interviewed by Adventist Today off the record believes that Linda Shelton's removal could benefit 3ABN ministry long-term. This source indicates that 3ABN has been undergoing troubled times, including a historic loss of revenue income in 2003, and that a shake-up at this time could be a new beginning for the maturing ministry. In a mass mailing to all financial supporters, 3ABN has also reflected the view that Linda Shelton's termination represents a time of opportunity.

Meanwhile, the emergence of a brand new 'Hope' satellite network, sponsored by the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, is attracting a great deal of interest across the nation, leading at least one influential Northwestern broadcaster, Blue Mountain Television, to sever ties with 3ABN as of Sept. 30. Other non-3ABN-owned stations may follow that lead in months to come, with unwelcome implications for 3ABN's bottom line.

All told, it appears likely that the internal disruption caused by the couple's breakup and the loss of 3ABN's monopoly as the sole source of satellite-driven programming for Adventist-oriented stations will combine to produce a less-than-banner year for 3ABN in 2004.

Oddly enough, Shelton herself sees a beneficial outcome, personally, from her termination. Noting on her new Web site that she had become institutionally sheltered by her many years of work at 3ABN, she says she welcomes the opportunity to get out on her own once again, mixing it up in the real world. She continues to portray herself as supportive of 3ABN's grand vision but conveys a sense of relief at severing ties.

Sources close to Linda Shelton indicate that she is now living near 3ABN headquarters in Illinois, in a modest dwelling, and that income sources include royalties from the sale of music she has written and performed and monthly termination payments. They also say that she has agreed not to comment publicly in ways that could be construed as attacks on her former husband and ministry.

She has also reportedly asked her friends to foreswear any such attacks or attempts to vindicate her, though some are now speaking out.

 2008/12/1 11:46Profile
taco
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KrispyKrittr wrote:
It's interesting how cyclical these heresies are. It's almost a "heresy-of-the-month" kinda thing. Last month it was the "there is no Trinity" heresy, this month it's law-bondage Sabbath keeping.
Krispy



Next thing it will be King James Only

 2008/12/1 11:53Profile
MSeaman
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 Re: Sabbath day

Here we go again......


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 2008/12/1 12:12Profile









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Next thing it will be King James Only



:-( Can I assume that was an attempt at humor?

Krispy

 2008/12/1 13:50
BlazedbyGod
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KrispyKrittr wrote:
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Next thing it will be King James Only



:-( Can I assume that was an attempt at humor?

Krispy



Krispy, I am King James Version Only as well...that, how wonderful we do share and have in common :-)

PS: There is nothing of bondage pertaing to the sabbath of the Lord either-there's no scripture for that.

 2008/12/1 20:40Profile





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