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Amen, my fellow "battle-state" friend! Well said.

Krispy

 2008/11/4 16:45
MaryJane
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Hi Chris

Please do not misunderstand me, I was not disappointed that Bush won the election in 2004. I was convicted for the attitudes of my own heart. The sin I was in of putting a man before God with my faith and trust. I have no ill feelings for President Bush or the work he has done while in office. I have been praying for him even more of late, he looks weary and I think that he has had a very difficult road to walk. Again please do not misunderstand me, I do care very deeply about the abortion in this country and around the world for that matter. There are many things that could be said back and forth between us about righteousness of the candidates and the path this country is on but in the end it comes down to this for “Me” voting is not an option. God has clearly shown me that this is not His heart for me and I must obey. I appreciate what you shared and am glad that you are following what God is showing you. We are to be obedient that is what He calls us to. I guess the reason in all honesty that I posted in the first place was because some of the things written here over the past few days have laid a great deal of condemnation on me.(not saying that was anyones intention, just the effect certain words have had) I have agonized over this for a while now and some comments have only made me feel worse. Please understand that I am not trying to persuade anyone in this but rather follow what I know to be true for me from the Father. Comments like “If you don't care about the unborn... either don't vote, or vote for the one candidate who has stood for abortion.” are hurtful and have laid heavy on my heart. Self has been screaming at me to go out and do something. To take action and yet in my heart I know in doing so I will be going against what God is showing me and there for I will be in sin. I do not say for you to vote is a sin, I am saying that for me voting is a sin because God has expressly shown me not to. Perhaps in our zeal and passion about this we all get caught up and don't think of the words we choose or the effect that they may have on a fellow believer.
Anyway thanks for your thoughts. I pray your time in line voting today will be short. May Jesus be lifted up and glorified as we both walk out what He has for us.

God bless you
MJ

 2008/11/4 16:54Profile
ccchhhrrriiisss
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Hi MaryJane...

Thank you for your words. I think that I understand your heart in this matter. There are some who might place their trust in man...or government. I think that the bigger issue is whether those who don't place their trust in government can/should vote. I feel that it is a great opportunity as part of this temporary citizenship...that we can affect the outcome of laws my merely shedding a voice...a vote.

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Please understand that I am not trying to persuade anyone in this but rather follow what I know to be true for me from the Father. Comments like “If you don't care about the unborn... either don't vote, or vote for the one candidate who has stood for abortion.” are hurtful and have laid heavy on my heart. Self has been screaming at me to go out and do something.

Yes, I agree that such comments can be construed as hurtful to some (although I didn't say them). However, I completely understand the sentiment behind them. So many people speak against abortion, but few people actually are privileged to do something about it. In America, we can pray, preach and vote against this inhuman, evil slaughter. It isn't a one or the other. We can do all three. It might not matter to us, but it matters greatly to the painful murders of nearly 1 Million unborn babies each year.

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Christopher

 2008/11/4 17:19Profile
GodsFire
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Thank you Krispykritter,

As for the fact that I do not know any of you personally, i cannot attest or say who any of you are or how you all believe, in other words, I do not know what any of you practice in private......

So that is why I made my statement, also I have been browsing around the site for the last days after being invited to the revival conference, so I am not a stranger to the old time preachers and their authentic messages, bit my concern is that attitude as to which candidate is better or worth the White House bid or according to some of you, who do you prefer as president and why?

That is just it KrispyKritter, I hope that it isn't just the "ole choir' that I am preaching too, and that isn't to play on your phrase, but
there is something that has to be understood by us as believers, and that we can literally be so holy expressive on the outside, but full of dead mens bones on the inside, not to mention that we can think that we are so broken and men of God that we lack the truth in ourselves....

It happens easily everyday in the christian faith....

it makes no , absolutely no difference what anyone expresses to me as a person and as a believer, i believe that actions speak louder than words and that God is watching during the quiet, lone, silent, deceptive, and conspicuous days of our lives.

How do we handle that part of our Christian life?

for talk is cheap when we deal with the world, and I believe that was brother Paul Washer and the other preachers were attemptin to thoroughly convey..........

Our religion is lack luster, even as I have read many of the posts here, that isn't in any way to say that I am perfect, please, that is not what I am saying.

But, when I read many of them, I believe that spirit bears witness with our spirits as to the authenticity and validity of our lives before God.

I pray we are what we talk about

 2008/11/4 17:24Profile









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If someone has a current conviction to not vote I respect that and give you the liberty to choose. However I also have the liberty to add some more info for one to consider.

When we vote we are not just voting for a President. We vote for other leaders, present and future, in local,state and federal Gov.

One party in general stands for freedom to have:
Gay marriage
Repeal don't ask don't tell policy in military
Implement the fairness doctrine.
Expand hate crimes laws
And of course Abortion on demand.

Now if you want to live in a country that has these activities protected by law and you as a christian harrased sued and thrown in jail, then don't vote. Just let it all happen. Cuz when it happens there is no guarantee that "oh it's the end now and Jesus is coming for us."

Many previous generations thought the Lord was coming for them in their generation and He did not.
selah?

 2008/11/4 17:59





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