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Ten Indictments:

1) A practical denial of the sufficiency of Scripture.
2 Tim 3:15. The Bible being inspired is only half the battle - the question is, is the Bible sufficient? What do we have to do with all of these modern day social experts that are actually against the word. Everything needs to be based upon the Word of God. All should rest upon "What is Thy will O God." God is the seeker. We are not called to build empires - we are called to glorify God. Isaiah 8. There is always a new fad - and we're always looking for a new theory. Why are we consulting the spiritually dead?

2) An ignorance of God. Many love their image of God rather than God. Psalm 50. People don't know God. 1 Cor 15:34. When is the last time you attended a conference on the attributes of God? To know Him is eternal life. To know HIM. Sunday is the greatest hour of idolatry in the entire week - we've made a god just like ourselves.

3) A failure to address man's malady. Man must be made aware of self in order to turn themselves over to God. The Spirit of God upon us will make others fall to the floor in despair of their sin. We are saying peace, peace when there is no peace. No one has ever been able to bear the witness of the Spirit. We esteem self more that we esteem God. As the night became dark, the stars come out in their glory. . . .the backdrop of our depravity.

4) An ignorance of the gospel of Jesus Christ. We do not know the gospel - we have reduced it to four little steps. The gospel begins with the nature of God, and then to the nature of man - if God is just - He cannot forgive you - Christ redeemed us from the curse - He became the curse for us. God turned away because His Son became sin. The cup was the cup of God the Fathers wrath.

Gospel reductionism - when there is no power, then we go to the tricks that do not work. When we catch a glimpse of what He did on that tree, we will not need anything else.

As Abraham did with his son, God did with His Son and slaughtered Him.

5) An ignorance of the doctrine of regeneration. Calvinism is not the issue, regeneration is. It is the work of God - He recreates man. We are always Ezekiel standing in the valley of dry bones, and they are always dry - once we understand that we no longer need to manipulate. Ye must be born again. If any man be in Christ he is a new creature.

The idolatry of descisionism.

6) An unbiblical Gospel invitation. Evangelism begins with the nature of God - who is God. We are crying out for revival, but don't even have the foundation straight. Everybody wants to go the heaven, but they just don't want God to be there when they get there. Men are haters of God.

We have no authority to tell men that they are saved. The doctrine of the uncarnal Christian has sent many men to hell. A tree is known by it's fruit.

. . . working till Christ be formed - John 3:16 (Praise the Lord!)

7) Ignorance regarding the nature of the church. "It's the church stupid" - Jesus gave His life for the church. There is not a remnant of believers inside a larger unit called the church. The remnant is the church. Pastors and preachers don't know what the church is. The lambs are getting blamed for all the things the goats are doing. Jeremiah 31:31. There is a difference between the new and the old covenant. He writes the laws within our hearts - we will know Him.

Just because we say it is so does not make it so.
Jeremiah 32:38. He will pull a people. One heart and one way. The church is one - she has always been one. (Praise the Lord!)

Do not say the church is full of sin - do not speak of the bride that way - it is the goats. We will have to answer if we say such things. We are being cowards . . . the bride of Jesus Christ is precious to God. Luke 39. Christ in His Holiness.
If you have no fear of Him it is sign (that you are not in Him).

8) A lack of loving and compassionate church discipline. We confront culture by obeying God. Just have an obedience sign and the world will hate you. We can either start obeying God and discipling ourselves or God will do it for us.

One on one discipleship - people are not getting converted. You can't teach a goat into a sheep.

9) A silence on separation. Holiness. It goes back to regeneration and the providence of God - He will see to it that the work that has been begun will be finished. He let Esau run wild, but He beat Jacob to death almost everyday of his life - lovingly.

You can judge a book by it's cover - you will know them by their fruit. The puritans made an attempt to bring everything in their life under the (subjection) of Jesus Christ.

If we want the power of Him upon us - things will have to go. Do not be bound together with unbelievers. Come out from among them.

10) A replacement of the Scriptures with psychology and sociology in regards to the family. There is no authority apart from the Word of God. God doesn't need us but He does command that we are obedient. God doesn't have a plan B. Sunday school and youth groups - Proverbs 13:20 - focus should be on men teaching their own families. Not kids teaching kids.


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i have a question, is their a video version of this?

If their is how can i get it?

Thanks much.

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Hi Watered,

As far as I know there is not one yet - but I am sure that there will be.
Keep checking back.

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 Re: Ten Indictments (A Historical 21st Century Message) by Paul Washer (OVER 1000 DOW

This is an awful sermon. I don't say that because I don't believe what he is saying, I say that because I DO believe what he is saying. The implications are astounding to me. I am so troubled.


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 Re: Ten Indictments (A Historical 21st Century Message) by Paul Washer (OVER 1000 DOW

Many state churches have historically taught the error of baptismal regeneration.

Many evangelical churches have historically taught the error of decisional regeneration (as Pastor Paul Washer taught).

Both errors have promised an assurance of salvation that was too easy and often false.

Luke 13:24 "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able".


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 Re: Ten Indictments (A Historical 21st Century Message) by Paul Washer (OVER 1000 DOW

brother jimmy,

you got to FIND the two hours to listen to this fully.

 2008/10/24 8:07Profile
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 Re: Ten Indictments (A Historical 21st Century Message) by Paul Washer (OVER 1000 DOW

Brother Greg,

We have been having prblems continualy trying to download this sermon here in Edmonton. We cannot get the whole sermon to download so we can burn onto CD's.

Any thoughts or similar problems like this anyone else?

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i have a question, is their a video version of this?


Yes, we will God willing be getting a video up on the website in about 1-2 weeks, please pray for wisdom for the brother to put this together.

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We have been having prblems continualy trying to download this sermon here in Edmonton. We cannot get the whole sermon to download so we can burn onto CD's.


The sermon is almost 2 hours long. I am going to make a copy of it in 2 parts that can be burnt to 2 cds. Thanks for the patience. When I get back today I will be also increasing the volume of the recording etc.


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This is a copy of my own [url=http://biblebasesecondthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/paul-washer-10-indictments.html]second thoughts blog.[/url]

I am about half way through listening to the recent message of Paul Washer given at the Sermonindex Revival Conference in the USA. I have listened to 5 of the indictments and wanted to get draw your attention to this ministry. I know nothing about Paul Washer but I have disturbed my dog several times with loud "amens" on our morning walks!

If you are English in temperament don't be put off by the delivery. This is a man with a passion and a message that needs to be heard. His main thesis is that we ought not to be asking God for revival until we have done what He has already told us. That is a rather abrupt summary and he is not against praying for revival but his burden is that the 'church' and particularly evangelical preachers have been grossly unfaithful to the revelation of the scripture.

One thing that has really impressed me is his return to the theology of Penal Substitutionary Atonement. Finney is conspicuously absent from his quotations. So much that I have heard recently has come from the Finney position on Atonement that it is like a breath of fresh air to hear Penal Substitutionary Atonement preached with such conviction. You find that in indictment 3.

His 10 indictments are: (with timings - approximate)


1. a practical denial of the sufficiency of scripture (0:12:25)

2. an ignorance of God (0:19:10)

3. a failure to address man's malady (0:25:00)

4. an ignorance of the doctrine of regeneration (0:43:07)

5. an unbiblical gospel invitation (0:51:55)

6. ignorance regarding the nature of the church (1:07:07)

7. a lack of loving and compassionate church discipline (1:22:00)

8. a silence on separation (1:28:32)

9. psychology and sociology have replaced the scriptures with regard to the family (1:35:55)

10.untitled(1:45:45)


You can download or listen to the message HERE

PS. I have listened to the whole message now. If you will excuse the manner of expressing this... you have to listen to this message.


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