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 Re: Westminster Catechism

I think its great. I started teaching my kids the small children's catechism last year and it has been great. For the longest time I was so frustrated trying to teach my children. The catechism has allowed me to be consistent, systematic, keep things simple and consise.

I believe the philosopy behind teaching this way comes from classical education; where you teach according to the child's developmental stage.

Be encouraged.

 2008/8/11 18:55









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"I am persuaded that the use of a good Catechism in all our families will be a great safeguard against the increasing errors of the times, and therefore I have compiled this little manual from the Westminster Assembly's and Baptist Catechisms, for the use of my own church and congregation. Those who use it in their families or classes must labour to explain the sense; but the words should be carefully learned by heart, for they will be understood better as years pass.


May the Lord bless my dear friends and their families evermore, is the prayer of their loving Pastor."

C. H. Spurgeon

http://www.prbc.org/Catechism.htm



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I think the LARGER Westminster Catechism is the way to go. It's what I plan on teaching my children. I ordered mine today along with the proof texts.

 2008/8/11 21:32
TaylorOtwell
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Rivqah,

I have the clothbound Westminster Standard that the OPC makes available. It is a really well-bound (sewn, not glued), handsome volume and is a handy size. It also contains the Scripture proofs. I would recommend it any day!

http://www.gcp.org/church_resources_standards.asp

It's the first item on the page...


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 2008/8/11 21:33Profile









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TaylorOtwell wrote:
Rivqah,

I have the clothbound Westminster Standard that the OPC makes available. It is a really well-bound (sewn, not glued), handsome volume and is a handy size. It also contains the Scripture proofs. I would recommend it any day!

http://www.gcp.org/church_resources_standards.asp

It's the first item on the page...



O.k I saw that today and I wasn't sure if that was the one. Thanks!

 2008/8/11 21:36









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I found a websight that has some devotionals for children using the shorter catechism before we move on to the longer catechism. There is one for each day of the week and I just print it out on my computer.

http://wscdevotions.com/default.aspx

 2008/8/12 11:27
Compton
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Two more wonderful resources relative to the Shorter Catechism:

[url=http://www.amazon.com/Family-Worship-Book-Resource-Devotions/dp/1857924010/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218581104&sr=8-1]The Family Worship Book[/url]

[url=http://www.ipcnorfolk.org/resources.shtml]Shorter Catechism audio[/url]

MC


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Mike Compton

 2008/8/12 18:45Profile









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Compton wrote:
Two more wonderful resources relative to the Shorter Catechism:

[url=http://www.amazon.com/Family-Worship-Book-Resource-Devotions/dp/1857924010/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218581104&sr=8-1]The Family Worship Book[/url]

[url=http://www.ipcnorfolk.org/resources.shtml]Shorter Catechism audio[/url]

MC



Thanks! Today we discussed the chief end of man.:)

 2008/8/12 19:03
InTheLight
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I have been going through the Shorter Catachism with my kids for some time now, they have memorized much but my main concern is more with them getting a real understanding of Bible truths. There is a danger in getting satisfaction from hearing them recite back words and sentences about which they have no real understanding.

Personal understanding needs to be the goal of our teaching. Truth committed to memory provides the building blocks for such growth. It is important to teach, discuss, illustrate, and apply the Bible. Every-day situations that come up in their lives provide excellent opportunities to remind the kids of what they have committed to memory.

One excellent memorization resource I would like to share can be found [url=http://www.founderspress.com/shop/store.php?crn=205&rn=397&action=show_detail]HERE[/url]. I have used these Truth and Grace books and find them very helpful. Each one is geared toward a different age group and in addition to catachisms they each contain Bible memory verses and classic hymns as well. Book 1 has a simplified Shorter Catachism. Book 2 contains the Shorter Catachism, Baptist version. And book 3 contains the Heidelberg Catachism, Baptist version.

In Christ,

Ron


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InTheLight wrote:
I have been going through the Shorter Catachism with my kids for some time now, they have memorized much but my main concern is more with them getting a real understanding of Bible truths. There is a danger in getting satisfaction from hearing them recite back words and sentences about which they have no real understanding.

Personal understanding needs to be the goal of our teaching. Truth committed to memory provides the building blocks for such growth. It is important to teach, discuss, illustrate, and apply the Bible. Every-day situations that come up in their lives provide excellent opportunities to remind the kids of what they have committed to memory.

One excellent memorization resource I would like to share can be found [url=http://www.founderspress.com/shop/store.php?crn=205&rn=397&action=show_detail]HERE[/url]. I have used these Truth and Grace books and find them very helpful. Each one is geared toward a different age group and in addition to catachisms they each contain Bible memory verses and classic hymns as well. Book 1 has a simplified Shorter Catachism. Book 2 contains the Shorter Catachism, Baptist version. And book 3 contains the Heidelberg Catachism, Baptist version.

In Christ,

Ron



Amen, thanks for the link. Having been raised up in a very conservative church, having never heard the gospel it has always been on my heart for my kids to understand the bible than just reciting it without any real understanding or true conviction. We'll probably be sitting on question one for awhile.

I really do not understand why the catechism was done away with. If these great men of God thought we needed it surely there is a reason.


Herbert Palmer, B. D., of Ashwell.
Oliver Bowles, B. D., of Sutton.
Henry Wilkinson, B. D., of Maddesden.
Thomas Valentine, B. D., of Chalfent Giles.
William Twisse, D. D., of Newbury.
William Reyner, of Egham.
Hannibal Gammon, of Maugan.
Jasper Hicks, of Lawrick.
Joshua Hoyle, D. D., of Dublin.
William Bridge, of Yarmouth.
Thomas Wincop, D. D. of Elesworth.
Thomas Goodwin, D. D., of London.
John Ley, of Budworth.
Thomas Case, of London.
John Pyne, of Bereferrars.
Francis Whidden, of Moreton.
Richard Love, D. D., of Ekington.
William Gouge, D. D., of Blackfriars,
Ralph Brownrigg, D. D., Bishop of Exeter.
Samuel Ward, D. D., Master of Sydney College, Cambridge.
John White, of Dorchester.
Edward Peale, of Compton.
Stephen Marshall, B. D., of Finchingfield.
Lazarus Seaman, B. D., of London.
John Harris, D. D., Warden of Winchester College.
George Morley, D. D., of Minden Hall.
Edward Reynolds, D. D., of Brampton.
Thomas Hill, B. D., of Tickmarsh.
Robert Saunderson, D. D., of Boothby-Parnell.
John Foxcroft, of Gotham.
John Jackson, of Marsac.
William Carter, of London.
Thomas Thoroughgood, of Massingham.
John Arrowsmith, D. D., of Lynn.
Robert Harris, B. D., of Hanwell.
Robert Cross, B. D., of Lincoln College.
James Ussher, Archbishop of Armagh.
Matthias Styles, D. D., of Eastcheap, London.
Samuel Gibson, of Burleigh.
Jeremiah Whittaker, of Stretton.
Edmund Staunton, D. D., of Kingston.
Daniel Featly, D. D., of Lambeth.
Francis Coke, of Yoxhall.
John Lightfoot, D. D., of Ashley.
Edward Corbet, of Merton College, Oxford.
Samuel Hildersham, of Fetton.
John Langley, of West-Tuderly, Gloucester.
Christopher Tisdale, of Uphurstbourne.
Thomas Young, of Stowmarket.
John Philips, of Wrentham.
Humphrey Chambers, B. D., of Claverton.
John Conant, B. D., of Lymington.
Henry Hall, B. D., of Norwich.
Henry Hatton.
Henry Scudder, of Colingbourne.
Thomas Bayley, B. D., of Manningford-Bruce.
Benjamin Pickering, of East Hoatly.
Henry Nye, of Clapham.
Arthur Sallaway, of Severn Stoake.
Obadiah Sedgewick, B. D., of Coggeshall.
Thomas Carter, of Oxford.
Peter Clarke, of Carnaby or Kirby.
William Mew, B. D., of Essington.
Richard Capel, of Pitchcombe.
Theodore Backhurst, of Overton Wetsville.
Philip Nye, of Kimbolton.
Brocket Smith, D. D., of Barkway.
Cornelius Burgess, D. D., of Watford.
John Green, of Pencombe.
Stanley Gower, of Brampton.
Francis Taylor, of Yalding.
Thomas Wilson, of Otham.
Anthony Tuckney, D. D., of Boston.
Thomas Coleman, of Bliton.
Charles Herle, of Winwick.
Richard Herrick, of Manchester.
Richard Clayton, of Showell.
George Gipps, of Ayleston.
Calibute Downing, D. D., of Hackney.
Jeremiah Burroughs, of Stepney.
Edmund Calamy, B. D., of Aldermanbury.
George Walker, B. D., of London.
Joseph Caryl, of Lincoln’s Inn, London
Sidrach Simpson, of London,
Anthony Burgess, of Sutton-Coldfield.
Richard Vines, of Calcot.
William Greenhill, of Stepney.
William Moreton, of Newcastle.
Richard Buckley.
Thomas Temple, B. D., of Battersey.
Josias Shute, B. D., Lombard Street.
William Nicholson, D. D., afterwards Bishop of Cloucester.
Thomas Gataker, B. D., of Rotherhithe.
James Welby, of Sylatten.
Christopher Pashly, D. D., of Hawarden.
Henry Tozer, B. D., of Oxford.
William Spurstow, D. D., of Hampden.
Francis Cheynel, D. D., of Petworth.
Edward Ellis, B. D., of Gilsfield.
John Hacket, D. D., of St. Andrew’s London.
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John de la March, — French Congregations.
Matthew Newcomen, of Dedham.
William Lyford, of Sherbourne.
William Carter, of Dynton.
William Lance, of Harrow.
Thomas Hodges, of Kensington.
Andrew Perne, of Wisby.
Thomas Westfield, D. D., Bishop of Bristol.
Henry Hammond, D. D., of Penshurst.
Nicholas Proffit, of Marlborough.
Peter Sterry, of London.
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John Gibbon of Waltham.
Henry Painter, B. D., of Exeter.
Thomas Micklethwait, of Cherryburton.
John Wincop, D. D., of St. Martin’s in the Fields.
William Price, of St. Paul’s, Covent Garden.
Henry Wilkinson, R. D., of St. Dunstan’s.
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William Dunning, of Godalston.


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