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mom23beagles
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 Dr. John MacArthur's Response to Osteen's "Your Best Life Now"

Check this out, praise God for those who are willing to speak His Truth, and be blessed!

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbRNDOnkpB0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbRNDOnkpB0[/url]

 2008/7/13 17:16Profile
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 Re: Dr. John MacArthur's Response to Osteen's "Your Best Life Now"

interesting thanks for posting this link.


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 2008/7/15 9:50Profile
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On page 5, it says "God wants this to be the best time of your life." On another page it says “Happy, successful, fulfilled individuals have learned how to live their best life now.” On another page it says, “As you put the principles found in these pages to work today, you will begin living your best life now." And that is absolutely true if you’re not at Christian. This is it, you’d better get the book, because your next life is going to be infinitely worse than this one.

This is your best life now, in fact it’s your only life because in the world to come you will only exist in a perpetual state of dying, with no hope, no satisfaction, no meaning, no joy and no future, and no relief from eternal suffering. That’s the worst life possible. And this is your best life, if your next life is in hell.

But, on the other hand, if you are a child of God and your sins are forgiven and you’ve come to embrace Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, this is not even close to your best life! You can’t even comprehend what your best life looks like because “Eye hath not seen nor has ear heard what God has prepared for those that love Him.” Contrary to what is popular today, even in religious circles, even in quote unquote Christian circles, even in the name of Jesus, the Lord is not promising you here and now a full, happy, rich, satisfying, trouble-free life of health, wealth and success. Oh He does promise that, absolutely … a full, happy, rich, satisfying, trouble-free life of health, wealth and success and absolute joy and peace and perfection, but not now. Not now. In fact, quite on the other hand, our Lord has promised to those that know Him and love Him, in this life, trouble, persecution, rejection, difficulty, trials, temptation, pain, suffering, sorrow, sickness, and even physical death.

So, for Christians, this is our worst life now. It isn’t that it’s bad, but comparatively, it’s the worst when you think of the life that is to come, which is the best. Your best life as a Christian begins when this life ends. Christians through the centuries have understood this, certainly the early Christians understood it. The Bible makes it clear. You just can’t expect all the promises that God has made to you for Heaven to necessarily show up here. Any sensible Christian understands that. Don’t expect more than this life can deliver.

 2008/7/15 18:46Profile
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One man's opinion, sure is funny he pick up the book and read it, I wonder why? maybe he was looking for his best life now. :-)
I sure hope jealousy did not play a part in his opinion, but I am sure it did somewhat.
Were was his discernment? he should have never even picked up the book, I wonder if he looks at pornography first before he decides his opinion on it also. As much as all these Pastors today say God speaks to them, I guess God was on a coffee break when he was deciding to pick up this book and read it. Me personally I just think he was a little jealous, but I am entitled to my opinion just like he is.


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 2008/7/15 20:02Profile
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Your response is quite shocking and it leads me to question if you are were in the Spirit when you posted. I can't imagine how you got to be here in your "home away from home" with that blasphemous mouth. Flying under the radar, are we? Disgusting. :roll:

 2008/7/15 22:33Profile
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MrBillPro wrote:
One man's opinion, sure is funny he pick up the book and read it, I wonder why? maybe he was looking for his best life now. :-)
I sure hope jealousy did not play a part in his opinion, but I am sure it did somewhat.
Were was his discernment? he should have never even picked up the book, I wonder if he looks at pornography first before he decides his opinion on it also. As much as all these Pastors today say God speaks to them, I guess God was on a coffee break when he was deciding to pick up this book and read it. Me personally I just think he was a little jealous, but I am entitled to my opinion just like he is.



What do you think he is jealous of? Because Osteen has wrote a book that people have bought? MacArthur has wrote a whole lot more books than Osteen... at least from what I know. So surely that isn't it.


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 2008/7/15 22:40Profile
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Hey and you know what? I accept your opinion, but it also seems sometimes here that folks are greedy when it comes to their opinions, they want there's and there's alone, you have your opinion and I have mine and it does not make either of us right it only makes our opinions different.
Maybe Osteen should voice his "opinions" about John MacArthur's books or maybe Osteen is a better person for keeping his mouth shut when it does not edify.
Seems like John MacArthur has somewhat of a blasphemous mouth also, but this is the kind of things that are to happen in the end times even preacher against preacher, looks like MacArthur has been reading a lot of end times stuff and plans on being a part of it by doing his part.


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 2008/7/15 22:45Profile
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OMD, are you even a Bible-believing Christian? Shame on you for your blasphemy! I havn't been this shocked in quite some time. Unbelievable.

 2008/7/15 22:57Profile
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 Re: Dr. John MacArthur's Response to Osteen's "Your Best Life Now"

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mom23beagles wrote:
Check this out, praise God for those who are willing to speak His Truth, and be blessed!



Praise God for those who are willing to speak His Truth, you said it best when "you" started this thread. I guess you were thinking everyone was going to jump on your bandwagon, but your right, "Praise God for those who are willing to speak His Truth" I am willing to speak my opinion just like Macarthur did "in my opinion" he did not speak the truth he spoke his opinion. See now we just have different opinions what so hard to see here? let God be the Judge of truth not man, because folks lie everyday and man does not "really" have a way to know 100%, but God does, so if man is judging truth that truth is fallible.


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 2008/7/15 23:08Profile
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You're clueless. Crack open your Bible once in a while and maybe then you'll see the heresies that are perpetuated in everything Joel Osteen does and says. 8-)

 2008/7/16 0:12Profile





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