Saints,

Please pray first before watching this and plead the blood over yourself

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THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRITS THAT TODD BENTLEY OPERATES UNDER

This video shows a pastor from Germany receiving an impartation from Todd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9xdw6aT9c&feature=related

This video shows the same man in his hotel room talking about his visitation from an angel and his experience. A few minutes in, he can’t finish talking, because he begins to get thrashed by an unseen force. He proceeds to manifest and convulse on the floor shamefully after hitting his head quite hard on the dresser. Here’s the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOgb9ng2F4&feature=related

Are these the gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit? Where in Scripture do we see any saint of the Living and True God manifest in such a way?

I must admit, I have seen these types of manifestations in my own ministry –however, it was only when I or a brother with me were commanding demon spirits to come out of someone in the name of Jesus.

Todd Bentley constantly manifests his “anointing” by shaking his head back and forth, and by his body physically shaking. These manifestations also happen frequently in those who he imparts to. He will even wave his arms over the audience, shouting, “Fire! Fire! Fire!” and then people in the audience will start manifesting. Some appear to be convulsing, and some even as if they are being thrashed by a spirit.

from: http://www.cristianismobiblico.com/bentleyexposed.htm

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SermonIndex.net Moderator - Greg Gordon

"When men stand high their heads do not grow dizzy till they look down; when men look down upon those that are worse than themselves, or less holy than themselves, then their heads turn round; looking up would cure this disease. The most holy men, when once they have fixed their eyes awhile upon God's holiness, and then looked upon themselves, have been quite out of love with themselves." - William Gurnall

This is so difficult to watch... absolutely horrible!!

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If this were truly a move of God then true saints would be drawn to it... not repulsed by it.

Krispy

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"But still ye will say, I cannot understand it. What marvel? How shouldest thou understand, if thou wilt not read nor look upon it? Take the Book into thine hands, read the whole story, and that thou understandest not, read it again, and again: if thou can neither so come by it, counsel with some other than it better learned.” – Thomas Cranmer

I was thinking of my post while cooking dinner. I started to second-guess what I wrote... thinking that perhaps it was more of a personal application. While I was thinking about it I got this scripture;

Ps 101:3
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

I think this is a warning from the Holy Spirit for all of us who having been watching this garbage!!!! I know this scripture is often used in the context of pornography or violance, but I think this is just as dangerous!

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“If we once get above our Bibles, and cease making the written Word of God sole rule both as to faith and practice, we shall soon lie open to all manner of delusion, and be in great danger of making shipwreck of faith and a good conscience. Our blessed Lord, though He had the Spirit of God without measure, yet always was governed by, and fought the devil with, ‘It is written.’” (George Whitefield)

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SermonIndex.net Moderator - Greg Gordon

"When men stand high their heads do not grow dizzy till they look down; when men look down upon those that are worse than themselves, or less holy than themselves, then their heads turn round; looking up would cure this disease. The most holy men, when once they have fixed their eyes awhile upon God's holiness, and then looked upon themselves, have been quite out of love with themselves." - William Gurnall

Luk 6:25 Woe unto you that are full for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.

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Some people do not like to hear much of repentance; but I think it is so necessary that if I should die in the pulpit, I would desire to die preaching repentance, and if out of the pulpit I would desire to die practicing it. - Matthew Henry

η δοξα της εκκλησιας λεγει παραβολην αγαπης

Hello...

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-Chris
Jeremiah 29:11-13
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"Are the things you're living for worth Christ dying for?"
- epitaph of Leonard Ravenhill

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
- Jim Elliot

The knee to the belly is no doubt a carry over from his UFC associations. How this stuff is passing off as Christianity is beyond my comprehension.

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Robert Wurtz II
Independence, MO

Nothing is holy if God is not there. (G.W. North)

THE GIRDED MIND


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I watched the videos and read the article.

I know a man who has had some similar manifestations as the man from Germany had. He was not demonized in the process or anything like that. In fact he fell more in love with Jesus and more committed to serve him.

I realise this all looks a bit crazy to most. I have seen similar things. I expect some of it was motivated by the flesh, but not all of it. At such times I have seen God minister to people, refreshing them and sending them out to serve. I have seen problem too. Sometimes people seek manifestations rather than God, looking for experiences instead of experiencing a lasting relationship. Some miss truth by seeking it in experience. Some miss truth by seeking it in religion or even intellectual faith. Jesus declared he is the truth.

I still catch myself sometimes falling into the same trap as the Pharisees: searching the Scriptures because I think in them I will find life. And yet those very Scriptures speak of Jesus, and I do not always come to him to find life.

The legalism of my upbringing still affects me, and I think it is sometimes in unusual ways that God drives that stale faith from us. I can't speak for all that is happening in Florida, but I have been less concerned than most. I still do not understand God's ways, and I want to listen to him about these things before I dismiss them. It may just be that some of us who went to church all our lives being told to sit down, shut up and listen to the teacher, need to wake from our stupor and learn what it means to have a relationship with God. We may need to laugh a little and cry a little. The work of the Spirit is much deeper than that however. I know missionaries and pastors who found God's heartbeat for the world while others stood criticizing: God doesn't work that way, this is of the devil, it's all just emotionalism.

I realize I may be wrong in these things, but having found God bigger than my ideas of "decently and in order", I still cautiously listen for discernment. Blessings in Christ!