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 THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRITS THAT TODD BENTLEY OPERATES UNDER

Saints,

Please pray first before watching this and plead the blood over yourself

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THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRITS THAT TODD BENTLEY OPERATES UNDER

This video shows a pastor from Germany receiving an impartation from Todd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9xdw6aT9c&feature=related

This video shows the same man in his hotel room talking about his visitation from an angel and his experience. A few minutes in, he can’t finish talking, because he begins to get thrashed by an unseen force. He proceeds to manifest and convulse on the floor shamefully after hitting his head quite hard on the dresser. Here’s the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOgb9ng2F4&feature=related

Are these the gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit? Where in Scripture do we see any saint of the Living and True God manifest in such a way?

I must admit, I have seen these types of manifestations in my own ministry –however, it was only when I or a brother with me were commanding demon spirits to come out of someone in the name of Jesus.

Todd Bentley constantly manifests his “anointing” by shaking his head back and forth, and by his body physically shaking. These manifestations also happen frequently in those who he imparts to. He will even wave his arms over the audience, shouting, “Fire! Fire! Fire!” and then people in the audience will start manifesting. Some appear to be convulsing, and some even as if they are being thrashed by a spirit.

from: http://www.cristianismobiblico.com/bentleyexposed.htm


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 2008/5/8 16:09Profile
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 Re: THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRITS THAT TODD BENTLEY OPERATES UNDER

This is so difficult to watch... absolutely horrible!!


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Please pray first before watching this and plead the blood over yourself



I've been watching the "revival" for about 5 minutes each night just to see what's happening. I really felt a strong warning from the Holy Spirit to stop watching it!! After seeing the above clips, I'm totally done. The Holy Spirit will show me how to pray from now on. I don't need to watch this garbage to know how to pray. It's almost like saying we need to watch porn to know how bad it actually is.


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If this were truly a move of God then true saints would be drawn to it... not repulsed by it.

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 2008/5/8 16:52
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 Re: Warning

I was thinking of my post while cooking dinner. I started to second-guess what I wrote... thinking that perhaps it was more of a personal application. While I was thinking about it I got this scripture;

Ps 101:3
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

I think this is a warning from the Holy Spirit for all of us who having been watching this garbage!!!! I know this scripture is often used in the context of pornography or violance, but I think this is just as dangerous!


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“If we once get above our Bibles, and cease making the written Word of God sole rule both as to faith and practice, we shall soon lie open to all manner of delusion, and be in great danger of making shipwreck of faith and a good conscience. Our blessed Lord, though He had the Spirit of God without measure, yet always was governed by, and fought the devil with, ‘It is written.’” (George Whitefield)


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Luk 6:25 Woe unto you that are full for ye shall hunger. [b]Woe unto you that laugh now![/b] for ye shall mourn and weep.


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 Re: THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRITS THAT TODD BENTLEY OPERATES UNDER

Hello...

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Todd Bentley constantly manifests his “anointing” by shaking his head back and forth, and by his body physically shaking. These manifestations also happen frequently in those who he imparts to. He will even wave his arms over the audience, shouting, “Fire! Fire! Fire!” and then people in the audience will start manifesting. Some appear to be convulsing, and some even as if they are being thrashed by a spirit.

Wow -- that sounds a lot like the "ministry" of David Hogan. He tells everyone what is going to happen if they don't "quench the Holy Ghost" and then he typically screams "FIRE FIRE FIRE" over the audience or the people standing in the front for prayer.

Oddly enough, this doesn't resemble anything that I read in the Word of God about Paul, Peter or Jesus.

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If this were truly a move of God then true saints would be drawn to it... not repulsed by it.



Amen!

I was checking out things here on SI, looking at these videos. Unknown to my husband who is sitting a few feet away from me, he asked, "what in the world are you listening to?" He thought it sounded so terrible he wanted me to turn it off! I told him and he was absolutely repulsed by it, just like me.

Really, it just blows my mind how [i]anyone[/i] could even be attracted to any garbage, foolishness like this. And then say it comes from God! Sounds almost blasphemous to me.

Then on the other end of the spectrum you have those who engage in body piercings....if there would be a church group doing that, I am sure the feds would find some law to bring those people to court and jail them...

Bro. Paul says to let everything be done decently and in order...sounds attractive, does it not? I am so glad for the example we have in Revelation of how people praise the LORD.

ginnyrose


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The knee to the belly is no doubt a carry over from his UFC associations. How this stuff is passing off as Christianity is beyond my comprehension.


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 Re: THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRITS THAT TODD BENTLEY OPERATES UNDER

I watched the videos and read the article.

I know a man who has had some similar manifestations as the man from Germany had. He was not demonized in the process or anything like that. In fact he fell more in love with Jesus and more committed to serve him.

I realise this all looks a bit crazy to most. I have seen similar things. I expect some of it was motivated by the flesh, but not all of it. At such times I have seen God minister to people, refreshing them and sending them out to serve. I have seen problem too. Sometimes people seek manifestations rather than God, looking for experiences instead of experiencing a lasting relationship. Some miss truth by seeking it in experience. Some miss truth by seeking it in religion or even intellectual faith. Jesus declared he is the truth.

I still catch myself sometimes falling into the same trap as the Pharisees: searching the Scriptures because I think in them I will find life. And yet those very Scriptures speak of Jesus, and I do not always come to him to find life.

The legalism of my upbringing still affects me, and I think it is sometimes in unusual ways that God drives that stale faith from us. I can't speak for all that is happening in Florida, but I have been less concerned than most. I still do not understand God's ways, and I want to listen to him about these things before I dismiss them. It may just be that some of us who went to church all our lives being told to sit down, shut up and listen to the teacher, need to wake from our stupor and learn what it means to have a relationship with God. We may need to laugh a little and cry a little. The work of the Spirit is much deeper than that however. I know missionaries and pastors who found God's heartbeat for the world while others stood criticizing: God doesn't work that way, this is of the devil, it's all just emotionalism.

I realize I may be wrong in these things, but having found God bigger than my ideas of "decently and in order", I still cautiously listen for discernment. Blessings in Christ!


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