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 Re: Liberal judges rule CA homeschools illegal...



A few weeks ago, someone posted a thread from which I've extracted this, which may be of interest to those of you who missed it the first time.

"Also look at the New Freedom Comission

[url=http://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov/reports/FinalReport/FullReport.htm]http://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov/reports/FinalReport/FullReport.htm[/url]

this directly affects every single child in America, saved an unsaved alike. The definitions for mental health conditions such as depression and incredibly vague and could lead to false diagnoses, especially if there is a legitimate issue within the environment causing people to feel disheartened:

Goal 4 - Early Mental Health Screening, Assessment, and Referral to Services Are Common Practice
In a transformed mental health system, the early detection of mental health problems in children and adults - through routine and comprehensive testing and screening - will be an expected and typical occurrence. At the first sign of difficulties, preventive interventions will be started to keep problems from escalating. For example, a child whose serious emotional disturbance is identified early will receive care, preventing the potential onset of a co-occurring substance use disorder and breaking a cycle that otherwise can lead to school failure and other problems.

Quality screening and early intervention will occur in both readily accessible, low-stigma settings, such as primary health care facilities and schools, and in settings in which a high level of risk exists for mental health problems, such as criminal justice, juvenile justice, and child welfare systems. Both children and adults will be screened for mental illnesses during their routine physical exams.

For consumers of all ages, early detection, assessment, and links with treatment and supports will help prevent mental health problems from worsening. Service providers across settings will also routinely screen for co-occurring mental illnesses and substance use disorders. Early intervention and appropriate treatment will also improve outcomes and reduce pain and suffering for children and adults who have or who are at risk for co-occurring mental and addictive disorders.

Early detection of mental disorders will result in substantially shorter and less disabling courses of impairment.

For consumers of all ages, early detection, assessment, and links with treatment and supports will help prevent mental health problems from worsening.
To aid in transforming the mental health system, the Commission makes four recommendations:

4.1 Promote the mental health of young children.


4.2 Improve and expand school mental health programs.


4.3 Screen for co-occurring mental and substance use disorders and link with integrated treatment strategies.


4.4 Screen for mental disorders in primary health care, across the lifespan, and connect to treatment and supports


[url=http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=21904&forum=48]Thread from which the above excerpt was extracted[/url]



This also ties in with another thread I posted, in which the names of 15 year olds who had new Driving Licences, were being stored on a computer ready to be forwarded to a different computer when they were 18. This may not seem to have anything to do with homeschooling, but I see that a Driving Licence instantly links homeschooled children into the same system.

However, for the mental health screening\treating programme to work properly, kids need to be in school, where they can first of all be detected as troublesome and then treated for the good\benefit of their peers.

I noted that Michael New, the soldier who couldn't bring himself to work for the UN, had been homeschooled conscientiously. (There is a video about his experience trying to resist from within the military, posted on the stopthenorthamericanunion site.)

 2008/3/10 20:13









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I met a brother from Germany recently. Their supreme court ruled against home schooling. The purpose was stated, according to my brother, To prevent groups of individuals from forming societies outside of the main stream German society

God forbid if you have a huge family. What do they do then, break up the family?

 2008/3/10 20:19
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 Re: Liberal judges rule CA homeschools illegal...

here a update I just got on this topic,
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From the HSLDA E-lert Service...
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HSLDA: Update--Defending Homeschool Freedom in California

Dear HSLDA Members and Friends:

The following is an update on the developing situation in California
from Michael Farris, Chairman, Home School Legal Defense Association.

State Superintendent Supports Homeschooling

On Tuesday, March 11, Jack O'Connell, California Superintendent of
Public Instruction, announced that he believed that homeschooling is
still legal in California. O'Connell's statement is welcome news. To
read it visit http://hslda.org/elink.asp?ID=4893 . Some might
conclude that the statement ends the controversy. However, it is not
the end of the matter; it is just an important step along the way.

His clarifying statement was probably the result of the massive public
outcry against the February 28 decision of the California Court of
Appeal which effectively ruled that homeschooling is illegal in
California unless conducted by a credentialed teacher and that parents
have no constitutional right to homeschool.

O'Connell's statement is helpful, but the courts will undoubtedly take
the position that their determination of the meaning of state law is
final even though they should give serious deference to the position
of the Superintendent of Public Instruction.

It should also be remembered that local school districts make the
decision about when to initiate prosecutions for truancy, and they are
not officially controlled by the state agency on these matters.
However, many local officials may be influenced by O'Connell's
positive statement.

Did the February 28 Ruling Intend to Affect All Homeschooling
Families?

Some have contended that the decision of the Court of Appeal in In Re
Rachel L. only affects that particular family. While a court order can
only direct one family to stop homeschooling, the case clearly sets a
legal precedent that will be binding against all other families if
this case is not reversed. (Technically, the decision is binding only
in the Second District which consists of Los Angeles, San Luis Obispo,
Santa Barbara, and Ventura counties. However, other appellate
districts will normally treat it as persuasive precedent. If ratified
by the Supreme Court of California, it formally binds all California
counties.)


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charlene

 2008/3/13 15:14Profile









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I met a brother from Germany recently. Their supreme court ruled against home schooling. The purpose was stated, according to my brother, To prevent groups of individuals from forming societies outside of the main stream German society



Actually, homeschooling was outlawed in Germany by Adolf Hitler in the 30's when he took over. His reasoning was that public education was the best way to educate and train the master race (i.e. Nazi's). The Soviet Union the same... except instead of a master race, it was the furtherence of Communism.

So the courts in Germany didnt strike down homeschooling... they upheld a law instituted by Adolf Hitler.

This court in California would fit right in with Hitler and Stalin. Same reasoning, same rulings, same goals just with different names. It's to uphold the "state"... no room for indiviuality. And thats about as anti-American and anti-Christian as you can get.

Krispy

 2008/3/13 17:04





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