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pastorfrin
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 Christian Patriotism

Christian Patriotism
by Alonzo Trevier Jones

http://www.embassyofheaven.com/catalog/patriot.htm

PART I:
HEAVEN'S CITIZEN IN WORLD

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Chapter I
Christian Patriotism

WHAT is Christian patriotism?

Patriotism is love of country. And the country that one loves is the country of one's birth, or of one's adoption by naturalization.

Christian patriotism, then, being Christian love of country, can be nothing else than the Christian's love of the country of his Christian birth.

The Christian birth is the new birth; it is the being "born again," John 3:3 which is being "born from above." And for a Christian that place that is "above," from which the Christian is born, is heaven.

Heaven, then, is the Christian's country. And even so saith the Scripture: "If ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Galatians 3:29 And to Abraham it was said, "Get thee out of thy country, . . . into the land that I will show thee." "He . . . obeyed," and thenceforth he and all his:

confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly; wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God; for He hath prepared for them a city. Hebrews 11:13-16


Patriotism, then, being love of one's country, and the "heavenly country" being the Christian's country, Christian patriotism is nothing else than love of the heavenly country. True patriotism is "the spirit that, originating in love of country, prompts to obedience to its laws; to the support and defense of its existence, rights, and institutions; and to the promotion of its welfare." The Christian's country being only the heavenly country, Christian patriotism is nothing else than the spirit that prompts to obedience to its laws; to the support and defense of its existence, rights, and institutions; and to the promotion of its welfare.

The spirit that originates in the love of the Christian's country, is none other than the Holy Spirit. For without being born again, there can be no Christian; and there being no Christian, there can be no love of the Christian's country - no Christian patriotism. Being born again is to be born of the Spirit. Therefore without the Holy Spirit's creating the new creature and the new life, there can be no Christian patriotism.

Are you a Christian patriot? Do you love the Christian's country above all other countries? Have you the spirit that prompts obedience to the laws of that country, above all other laws; that supports and defends its existence, rights, and institutions above and against those of all other countries?

Does Christian patriotism, this support and defense of the rights and institutions of the Christian's country, involve fighting? - It certainly does. Read: "Fight the good fight of faith." 1 Timothy 6:12 "The weapons of our warfare are not carnal," yet they are:

mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds; casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ. 2 Corinthians 10:4-5

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God; praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. Ephesians 6:13-18

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Have never viewed that site before Pastor - but am downloading this first -

http://www.embassyofheaven.com/catalog/bunyanco.htm

Will take some time to look at it all.

Hope you're well.

Amen!

 2008/2/9 22:17
pastorfrin
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Hi Annie,

Snowing, with 40 mph winds and blizzard conditions, so no church today, how lovely winter is up here.

Thank you for the links; yes the song is very moving, but is Jesus looking for our pledge of allegiance, or a life that totally follows Him?

Yes, there is much to absorb, I have enjoyed the search.

I have my days, but I know the battle has already been won, one day the manifestation of His completed work shall be revealed in us all. Until then, “I can do all things through Christ who strengtheneth me.” Or should I say, I can endure all things through Christ.

This life is so short and I have already spent too much time being concerned about myself, when Christ truly does have everything under control.

It is far past time for our concerns to be turned to others, pointing them to His Kingdom, and them, seeing His Kingdom in us.
Oh, if we truly believe His Kingdom is in us, then should not ‘His Kingdom’ be the focus of our whole life?

Hope you are well, Dear Sister, great to see you back sharing.

Amen!

In His Love
pastorfrin

 2008/2/10 11:09Profile
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Christian Patriotism
by Alonzo Trevier Jones

http://www.embassyofheaven.com/catalog/patriot.htm

PART I:
HEAVEN'S CITIZEN IN WORLD

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Chapter II
Christian Naturalization

PATRIOTISM is not only love of the country of one's birth, but also love of the country of one's naturalization.

Christian patriotism, therefore, is love of the country of one's Christian birth, the country of one's Christian naturalization.

Naturalization is that procedure through which persons born in another country - aliens, foreigners - become citizens of a certain country of their choice.

Is there, then, anything in Christian experience that corresponds to naturalization? Is there such a thing as Christian naturalization?

Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; that at that time ye were without Christ, being ALIENS from the commonwealth of Israel, and STRANGERS from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world. Ephesians 2:11-12


Aliens become citizens of a government by naturalization. You and I were aliens. We have become naturalized into the commonwealth of Israel, the kingdom of God. When someone becomes a naturalized citizen, what is involved? They take the oath of allegiance to the new government, the new sovereign. Here are the specifications - copied from a gentleman's certificate of naturalization:

"This is to certify, etc. that J___ B___ 'on being admitted to citizenship by this court, took the oath to support the Constitution of the United States of America, and that he then did absolutely and forever renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to every foreign prince, potentate, State, or sovereignty whatsoever, and particularly to the emperor of Germany.' etc., etc."

If he had been a British subject, it would have read, "and particularly to the queen of Great Britain and empress of India."

How much did he have to renounce? - "All allegiance and fidelity to every foreign prince, potentate, State or sovereignty whatsoever." And what in particular? - "And particularly to the emperor of Germany."

And how fully? And for how long? - "Absolutely and forever renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity." Thus he is to turn his back "absolutely" upon all his former "allegiance and fidelity to every foreign prince, potentate, State or sovereignty WHATSOEVER." That is in general. And in particular, to the one to whom he was particularly subject. In earthly governments, that is the way aliens are naturalized.

Now what about us? We "were aliens," but now we are fellow citizens with the saints: Deuteronomy 33:2, Jude 14

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but FELLOW-CITIZENS with the saints, and of the household of God; and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner-stone. Ephesians 2:19-20


That certificate of naturalization declares that, he, "on being admitted to citizenship, . . . did absolutely and forever renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to every foreign prince, potentate, State, or sovereignty whatsoever," and particularly to the sovereignty to which he had been subject.

In becoming a citizen of the commonwealth of Israel, a fellow-citizen with the saints, did you "absolutely and forever renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to every foreign prince, potentate, State, or sovereignty whatsoever," and particularly to the one to which you were formerly subject, as every alien must do to become a citizen of an earthly government?

If not, then do you count citizenship in the commonwealth of Israel, fellow-citizenship with the saints, of as much value as any alien must count citizenship in an earthly government?

If citizenship in heaven, in the commonwealth of Israel, is indeed as valuable as is citizenship in an earthly government, then in order to be truly a citizen of the commonwealth of Israel, just as certainly as to be a citizen of an earthly government, it is required that one shall "absolutely and forever renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to every foreign prince, potentate, State, or sovereignty whatsoever," and particularly to the one to whom, when an alien, he is subject, which is "the prince of this world."1 John 12:31

And if this is not done, what then? If all allegiance to every prince, potentate, State or sovereignty whatsoever, other than that of the commonwealth of Israel, is not absolutely and forever renounced and abjured, then there is certainly attempted a divided allegiance.

But will a divided allegiance answer? Will a divided allegiance be accepted? Will any earthly government accept a divided allegiance? If any alien asking to become a citizen of an earthly government should refuse to make that renunciation, full and complete as it is; if he should ask to have the renunciation divided, that he might retain and show some fidelity, only a little, to some foreign prince, potentate, State, or sovereign; would he be accepted? Everybody knows that he would not, not even for a moment. How, then, can it be supposed that such reserved, such divided, allegiance could be accepted in any one asking to be a citizen of the commonwealth of Israel?

It is not enough, however, to inquire whether a divided allegiance will be accepted. The true question is, Can there really be any such thing as a divided allegiance? And the true answer is, No; for it is written, "No man can serve two masters." Matthew 6:24

It is therefore certain that no alien, seeking to be a citizen of the commonwealth of Israel, can ever expect to carry with him any shadow of allegiance to anything in this world or of this world. It is written: "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."1 1 John 2:15

Princes, potentates, States, and sovereignties are only of this world. To retain allegiance or fidelity to any of these, is to retain allegiance and fidelity to the things that are only of this world, and, so, to the world itself.

Christian citizenship is citizenship in heaven; for "our citizenship is in heaven." Philippians 3:20 Another translation reads, "For our country [the State to which we belong, of which we by faith are citizens] is in the heavens." - Alford. Another, an interlinear, word for word, translation gives it, "For of us the commonwealth in the heavens exists."

Christian citizenship is citizenship in the commonwealth of Israel; for we are no more "aliens from the commonwealth of Israel," "no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God." Ephesians 2:12,19

Christian patriotism is love of the country of one's citizenship. And true citizenship is the absolute and everlasting renunciation and abjuration of all allegiance and fidelity to every other prince, potentate, State, or sovereignty whatsoever.


 2008/2/10 11:12Profile
sojourner7
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Never forget that we are the subjects of the
Most High who is our King and that we are
citizens in His Kingdom; the Kingdom of God!!
Our interests and our priorities should be
those that honor and glorify our God and King
and serve His purposes and will!!


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Martin G. Smith

 2008/2/10 13:51Profile









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Hi Pastor, I don't know how you all do it up there in that climate. We have a brother here from Alaska too - wow.

The song and the VIDEO said a lot to me personally. Yes, it spoke of our commitment and dedication to Him - No Matter What - and that point can only be come to from "a life that totally follows Him". If you saw the video.


Anyhow, it's great to see you back also. Amen!

Until then.
His Love.

GizzardHead

 2008/2/10 18:32
pastorfrin
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Christian Patriotism
by Alonzo Trevier Jones

http://www.embassyofheaven.com/catalog/patriot.htm

PART I:
HEAVEN'S CITIZEN IN WORLD

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Chapter III
Heaven's Citizens Remain Separate

Our citizenship is in heaven; from whence we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.15 Philippians 3:20


Every Christian's citizenship is in heaven. The Authorized Version is, "Our conversation is in heaven"; but that word "conversation" does not mean simply our words and the conversation which we have one with another in talking about neighborly affairs, but our manner of life, our course of conduct, our walk, is in heaven.

Now as our citizenship, the citizenship of every Christian, is in heaven, what has any citizen of heaven or of the heavenly government rightly to do with the political or governmental affairs of any other government or any other kingdom? In fact, what has a citizen of any government rightly to do with the political concerns or management of any other government?

We read about people who profess to be citizens of the heavenly kingdom, but they are constantly involving themselves in the political workings of the governments of this earth. They profess to have a citizenship in heaven, and yet they manipulate the affairs of the kingdoms of earth! They profess to be citizens of the kingdom of God, yet they propose to regulate the affairs of the governments of men. But that is a thing that never can rightly be done.

If a citizen of Great Britain should come into the United States, still retaining his citizenship in the government of Great Britain, and should take part, or attempt to take part, in the political affairs of this government, his action in that respect would be resented by every citizen of the United States. It matters not with what party he might wish to ally himself and work; they would not have it. They would say to him: That is none of your business; you do not belong here. You are a citizen of another government. If the laws of this country do not suit you, that has nothing to do with the case. The political systems of this country suit us. If things do not suit you, just let them alone, or else change your citizenship from the government to which you belong, and bring your citizenship here. Then begin to discuss the laws and how they should be made, and what they should be.

You know that is so. You know that is the way a citizen of another country would be treated by all the citizens of the United States, if he should undertake to manipulate, to control, or have any part in the political concerns of this country. That is not denying his right to live here; he may do that. But all do deny his right, and his very citizenship in another country, denies his right to have anything to do with the citizenship of the United States, or her political affairs.

As the Christian's citizenship is in heaven, the very principle of it, prohibits him from taking part in any of the political concerns of any other government, even though it be the government of the United States. And that is so; it exists in the very nature of the case. It lies in the very principle of citizenship itself.

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Christian Patriotism
by Alonzo Trevier Jones

PART I:
HEAVEN'S CITIZEN IN WORLD

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Chapter IV
Ambassadors of Heavenly Government

Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 2 Corinthians 5:20


This is not simply the ordained minister, for all who receive the grace of God are ministers of that grace. So it is written:

As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. 1 Peter 4:10


Even if it were confined to the ministry, this text would not be out of place in this connection, because it is the ministry that takes the lead in promoting the beast and his image, and is managing the whole movement, leading the people under their charge into these devious and evil ways.

So then, "we are ambassadors for Christ." An ambassador is one sent and accredited by one government as the representative of that government to another country. Now the principle of ambassadorship prohibits him from any interference whatever with the political concerns of the government to which he is accredited. If the British ambassador to the United States - or the ambassador from France or any other of these countries - should express an opinion upon, or take any part in, any of the political concerns of this country, his sovereign would be immediately notified that he was no longer an accepted person here, and would be called upon to withdraw him from the position of ambassador in this country.

That has been done at least twice in my recollection. In one of Grant's administration, the Russian minister to this country - Catacazy was his name - touched in some slight way upon some political issue. It was an insignificant one so far as any particular turn of politics was concerned, yet he was sent out of the country at once - recalled.

In the first campaign between Cleveland and Harrison, the British minister to this country, Sackville-West, received a letter from a Mr. Murchson, of California. Murchson pretended - whether it was correct or not - to be a British subject. In the letter were some questions and observations upon the current issues of the presidential campaign. The British Minister answered the letter, and expressed an opinion. The letter was published, and a dispatch was immediately sent to the court of St. James, demanding his recall; and he was recalled.

These are cited merely to illustrate the recognized principles of ambassadorship among nations, among men: Ambassadors are prohibited from interfering in the political concerns of the government to which they are accredited.

"We are ambassadors for Christ." These church leaders who are building up the beast and his image profess to be ambassadors for Christ. Yet they not only express opinions, but they lay down laws, they manipulate campaigns, they mold politics, and shape the whole political course of the governments to whom they are accredited. Thus, they violate the first, the last, and every principle that is involved in ambassadorship.

The principles of Jesus Christ speak to the heart. They take hold of the heart and are of value only as they have hold upon the heart. If they do not have hold upon the heart, the man who professes these principles will violate them in his actions.

"We are ambassadors for Christ." An ambassador is not sent to another country to pry into the affairs, or attend to the political concerns, of that country; but to attend to the affairs of his own country as they arise in that country. "We are ambassadors for Christ." The whole attention of a Christian is to be upon the things of his own country, the affairs of his own kingdom, and to attend to these as they may arise in the country on the earth where they may be sojourning. For as certain as we are Christians, "we are strangers and sojourners;" Hebrews 11:13 our country is yonder, where we belong.

An ambassador, then, in the country where he may be sojourning, is to attend to the affairs of his own kingdom, as they may arise there, and as they may affect the subjects of his own kingdom. Therefore if that kingdom or that government, in which he may be sojourning, undertakes to enact any laws, or take a political course that will infringe the rights of the people of his own country, he has the right and it is his duty to protest. He has the right to call attention to the principles that will be violated by the government in passing such a law, and taking such a course. Yet that government is independent and sovereign in its own realm and may enact such laws as to it seem expedient. And these laws may affect the citizens of his own country; and may bring hardships upon them. But in the enforcement of these laws, the citizen or ambassador is to insist that the procedure at every step in the case shall be strictly in accordance with its own jurisprudence and with all the principles upon which the laws are based.

Every Christian has the right to protest against any earthly government making any laws on the subject of religion! that is out of their jurisdiction; that invades the realm of the kingdom of God. It infringes the rights of the people of the kingdom of God. Therefore every ambassador of Jesus Christ has the inalienable right to protest against any such thing by any government on this earth.

But, upon their power and their asserted right to make laws, these governments do go ahead and make laws respecting religion; and then they arrest us, and bring us before their tribunals for violating these laws. And when they do that, we have the right to insist that they shall strictly conform to their own laws, and the constitutional principles upon which their government rests. This the Christian, the heavenly citizen, has the right to do in addition to the right to protest against their right to make any such laws at all.

The governments of earth, on their own part, count us their citizens or subjects, even after we have become citizens of the heavenly country. Earthly governments do not recognize the transference of our citizenship from that government into the heavenly one; and this brings a conflict many times. If every government would recognize this transference of citizenship and drop every man that professes to be a Christian from its roll of citizens or subjects, there would not be so much difficulty on this point, nor so many controversies arising.

But these governments do not do that; they propose to hold on to the man even after he has transferred his citizenship, and sometimes they will assert their right to hold him. They assert their right to control citizens of the heavenly kingdom as though they were still citizens of their former kingdom. We have transferred our citizenship to another country and are citizens of the heavenly country. But on the part of the United States we are still counted as citizens of the United States, because the Constitution says that all persons who are born here or are naturalized "are citizens of the United States, and the States in which they may reside." Though by our own choice we are citizens of heaven, and not citizens of the United States any more, the United States still holds us as citizens.

One of these days we are going to come in conflict with United States law, as well as State law - not because we are doing wrong, but because they are doing wrong. We shall be arrested, prosecuted, and required to respect the law, and to obey the law. When this happens, God will take care of us under the realm of which we are citizens, and in the kingdom to which we belong. He will attend to that; and He will conduct all these affairs according to His own righteous ways.

Yet so long as the Church keeps herself entirely separate from the State, she can consistently and rightly disregard any and all legislative acts, judicial decrees, or executive powers that touch religious practices because she ever denies the right of government to touch religion or any religious question in any way.

 2008/2/12 17:24Profile
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Quote:[i]Hi Pastor, I don't know how you all do it up there in that climate. We have a brother here from Alaska too - wow.[/i]

Not really on topic, but it was 48 below (-48) at our house for the last week and a half, yesterday and today it warmed up to 3 below. (t-shirt weather);-)

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