I just saw a post by a dear brother in Christ. That post delt with this topic of Calvinism and Arminianism. Im amaized how we spend so much time discussing this things and yet so many other things we do not keep. Where is Holliness in all this? Where is purity in all of it? 1. Unconditional Election. Calvinists believe that God decided before the world began who will be saved and who will be lost. According to unconditional election, your eternal destination has been decided. Nothing you may do will change that destiny!2. Limited Atonement. Calvin taught that Christs blood was shed for the elect onlythose God planned to save or elect to salvation.3. Total Depravity. That man can, in himself, do nothing to respond to God or to come to Him. According to this idea, faith is all on Gods partnot on mans part. The Calvinist will tell you, God does it all.4. Irresistible Grace. If God has decided to save you, He will do it regardless of what you do. You cant resist the plan and power of God. His saving grace overpowers the free will of the elect.5. Perseverance of the Saints. Anyone who is saved or elected by God can never fall away from or lose that salvationonce youre saved youre always saved!All I see in this is how men finds excuses for living the way they do. Wow, if this is true then go ahead sin all you want, at the end you are still saved.If that is your god, then I rather be eternally lost. Yeah I seriously do. How can I serve a god that is not Just and righteous. That is not the God I serve. The God I serve and live for has made me clean and has given me the choise of choosing ither him or Satan. I Choose GOD, I choose life, I choose to be holly and live with him the rest of my life. May we all see That there is a judement seat of Christ like Leonard Ravenhill puts it. We will one day come to judgement to be judged by the judge of all the earth. Let us be ready, watched in the precious blood of the Lamb.
_________________Samuel
but why do you get to choose God and not the other million other people in the world? is it because your smarter? or you can read? or you had Christian parents? or you had special insight? or your heart is more prone to Love? or someone offered you the chance to know Christ? i really want to know why you and not my friend?
_________________andy
All I see in this is how men finds excuses for living the way they do. Wow, if this is true then go ahead sin all you want, at the end you are still saved.
_________________TJ
Siboleth or Shiboleth? Many fruitless and loveless words have been lost in this debate. Brother kills brother in 'friendly' fire.Here is an anekdote from A.W.Tozer's biography:I (Cliff Westergren) was preparing to go to Nyack College. Before I left there was one burning question I had in mind, and I went to Dr. Tozer and said, "Could you give me some advice concerning the problem of Calvinism versus Arminianism?"And I'll never forget the advice he gave me. At the time I thought it was rather inconclusive and not too helpful. But I listened carefully. He said, "My son, when you get to college you're going to find that all of the boys will be gathered in a room discussing and arguing over Arminianism and Calvinism night after night after night. I'll tell you what to do, Cliff. Go to your room and meet God. At the end of four years you'll be way down the line and they'll still be where they started, because greater minds than yours have wrestled with this problem and have not come up with satisfactory conclusions. Instead, learn to know God." I am neither and both - call me a Christian. If I would tell you my position and you would disagree with me I am still looking forward to share eternity with you.Philip
Hey, Hello andres. I would gladly answer all of your questions.
why do you get to choose God.....
....and not the other million other people in the world?
is it because your smarter?
or you can read?
or you had Christian parents?
you had special insight?
your heart is more prone to Love?
someone offered you the chance to know Christ?
really want to know why you and not my friend?
Amen Brother Philip. Learn to know God. Amen That's why I try not to argue about this, because at the end all that matters is if we know Christ. Im a Christian, I don't follow any other person's teachings but Jesus Christ's. May we share eternity brother, in Heaven brother, not in Hell.
Living for God, i am sorry , for being argumenative i hope you may forgive me. love andy
Oh please don't worry about it. ;-) I did not think you where argumenative at all. You just where questionative (if that's a word).Did the answers help. Do you have any other question?
na your answers help, thanks and thanks for praying i need it love andy
1. Unconditional Election. Calvinists believe that God decided before the world began who will be saved and who will be lost. According to unconditional election, your eternal destination has been decided. Nothing you may do will change that destiny!
2. Limited Atonement. Calvin taught that Christs blood was shed for the elect onlythose God planned to save or elect to salvation.
3. Total Depravity. That man can, in himself, do nothing to respond to God or to come to Him. According to this idea, faith is all on Gods partnot on mans part. The Calvinist will tell you, God does it all.
4. Irresistible Grace. If God has decided to save you, He will do it regardless of what you do. You cant resist the plan and power of God. His saving grace overpowers the free will of the elect.
5. Perseverance of the Saints. Anyone who is saved or elected by God can never fall away from or lose that salvationonce youre saved youre always saved!
_________________patrick heaviside