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ironwood
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Compliments wrote:
"This is true. There is a worldwide organization called, "Jews Against Zionism" who believe that Jews do not belong in Palestine, they have been in exile and remain in exile because of disobedience. They know there is no scripture in the bible that speaks of their return."

Actually JAZ belives that God Himself will bring the Jews back to the Holy Land. They believe that
to take it upon themselves to do so is diasatrous. They believe that modern Israel is a work of human hands and not God. They do not believe that the end justifies the means. When God brings the Jews back to the Holy Land they will be a blessing and not a curse.

They despise the blue hexagram which was never a symbol for the Jews. The Israeli hexagram on the flag came from the Rosthschild family sheild. Six points, six triangles with a six sided middle reprsents 666 and has always been an important occult symbol. This is where we get the term to put a "hex" on somebody. The symbol for Israel is either a menorah or a fig tree.

God's promises to Abraham are yea and amen both physically and spiritually. The Bible never promised a secular state for Israel after Messiah came. Jesus did not die for a piece of turf. One reason He went to the Cross was so that all who call upon His Holy Name, both Jew and Gentile, could dwell with Him forever in New Jerusalem which is the real promised land now.

The Western Church was prepared to believe that 1948 was a fullfilment of Bible prophecy to a great extent through Cyrus Scofield's footnotes. The Scofield reference Bible had been a standard in seminaries for quite some time.

Your High school history teacher never told you about Plan "D" or in Hebrew, Plan "Dalet".

Westerners and Israelis are fed a sanitized history. Many are opening their eyes to what really happened and to what is going on. More Jews are leaving the Holy Land than immigrating to it. They see that Israeli Nationalism is the state god and that the Torah is being trampled under foot more and more. Many of the Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem refuse to take on Israeli citizenship and they suffer for it.

JAZ ilk groups travel to Iran and speak with Iranian leaders. Iran welcomes them. They see the difference between Jew and Zionist. The Iranian leaders see who the Zionists are and what they do. They do not want to push all the Jews in to the ocean. They want to stop the Zionist government from starting more dirty wars in the name of "Eretz Y'Israel". The Western press does not see the difference so any Arab voice against Zionism is interpreted as a voice against all Jews in general.

Again. There was relative peace for many years in the Holy Land between the hundred thousand Palestinian Moslems, Jews and Christians who lived there before Herzl's descipiles showed up.

A land without a people for a people without a land was a blatent lie. Plan "D" worked extremely well so there was no opposing voice to these lies.

It is unfortunate that many hate groups use these things to foment more hatred for Jews. They also do not distiguish between national Zionists and Jews.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Edited one sentence for clarity
Jan 10 @ 5:16 my time.


 2008/1/10 12:28Profile









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Brother Ironwood, maybe you could explain to me what this that Dusty posted means from this link -

http://www.templeinstitute.org/megillat-bush.htm

Where they address -

"Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), leader of the west!"

:-?

What in the world is going on out there?

 2008/1/10 14:43
ironwood
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HeReigns,

"Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), leader of the west!"

I read that post at RS and I haven't got a clue what that means. It may be a warning for him not to rock the boat with their wishes.

 2008/1/10 19:22Profile





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