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 IS GOD ALL-LOVING? HE IS NOT!!!!!

God cannot be all-loving for He is angry with the wicked everyday and He hates the wicked and all evildoers (Ps. 5, 7, 11) Your thoughts

 2007/10/18 9:12
sprice
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 Re: IS GOD ALL-LOVING? HE IS NOT!!!!!

Can God be angry and loving at the same time?

 2007/10/18 9:14Profile









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He must hate evil to be just, so I ask you can God be a just judge and still be forgiving???

 2007/10/18 9:17
BeYeDoers
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yes he can and is. the two are not mutually exclusive. We can and must and are to be angry OUT of love. If my best friend is backsliding, I am angry BECAUSE I love him.

I recommend AW Tozer's [i]Knowledge of the Holy[/i]. God can love and hate at the same time. He is not the sum of parts, but the absence of parts.


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Denver McDaniel

 2007/10/18 9:21Profile









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He is not the sum of parts, but the absence of parts



Can you explain this a little more?

 2007/10/18 9:25
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pm4Hisglory wrote:
He must hate evil to be just, so I ask you can God be a just judge and still be forgiving???



That doesn't prove that He isn't "all loving." It proves he loves justice.

You're not really giving us enough information about what you are trying to say. You could be trying to mar the character of God, trying to disprove the Bible, or who knows. I can't tell where you are coming from to be able to answer this really. What do you mean by "all loving?" And do you think that is what it is historically thought to mean by "all loving?"


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Josh Parsley

 2007/10/18 10:19Profile
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I think that problem with understanding this is that you are looking at this question through human eyes and not the eyes of the Lord. As humans, it is hard for us to understand the magnificent of Gods glory.

Does God hate? yes.

[u][b]Amos 5:15 (NKJV)[/b][/u]

"Hate evil, love good; Establish justice in the gate..."

[u][b]Malachi 2:16 (NKJV)[/b][/u]

“ For the LORD God of Israel says That He hates divorce, For it covers one’s garment with violence,” Says the LORD of hosts. “ Therefore take heed to your spirit, That you do not deal treacherously.”

[u][b]Psalm 11:5[/b][/u]

The LORD tests the righteous,But the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates.

[u][b]Proverbs 6:16 (NKJV)[/b][/u]

These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:


Now the difference with this is understanding what God hates. Look it over. God hates sin. We are called to hate what God hates. Does this mean that he in unloving? Not at all. If there wasn't a hatred for evil, how could there be a love for goodness and rightousness?

To love God is to hate sin. Pure and simple. If you love sin, you hate God. So for someone to think that God is unloving because He hates what is evil needs to truly look deep into the Word and pray. God loves all man. He came and died for everyone's sin. He hates sin so much, that He died on the cross for you.

Is this unloving?

Miccah


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Christiaan

 2007/10/18 10:32Profile
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It is easy to go "overboard" on both sides, the scriptures say God is love, but he also hate evil and sin in all its forms with such a great hatred we can not begin to understand it.,.. but does the one exclude the other? God forbid.... Gods love is wonderful and so great all out "great" theological minds can not comprehend how great Gods love is....and the same goes for his hate.... and it is good that we dont mix Gods Holy hatred that is good, nothing God does is bad, even when God hates that to is good... so dont mix Gods hatred with our most of the time sinful hatred....

How does it all go together?

I have not a clue.... who can figure out God?
we can try but greater minds then ours have tried and failed, but i thank him for his word that in taking it all as it is there is a balance.... so many see the perverted love gospel that is so common today and go instead totally on the other side and only speak about Gods anger.... balance ....

my two cents

Christian


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CHRISTIAN

 2007/10/18 10:48Profile
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here is a very good teaching, in my opinion :-) on this subject or this attribute of our God [url=http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=8309]The wrath of God by Charles Leiter[/url]


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CHRISTIAN

 2007/10/18 10:53Profile
BeYeDoers
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Can you explain this a little more?



I could try, but I'm not sure it would do either one of us any good :-) I'll leave that to Tozer.


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Denver McDaniel

 2007/10/18 11:10Profile





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