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 EU Constitution-What Will America Do?

I was wondereing if any of you have ever read the EU constitution and do you think America will eventually become a member state before the antichrist comes? According to this constitution if you are not a member state you do not have any rights or privilages and are considered in defiance to the other member states the last time I read it.

New monetary system:

Quote:
"The European Central Bank, together with the national central
banks of the Member States whose currency is the euro, which constitute the Eurosystem, shall
conduct the monetary policy of the Union."

New Laws:
Quote:
"Member States shall adopt all measures of national law necessary to implement legally
binding Union acts."

"Member States shall consult one another within the European Council and the Council on any
foreign and security policy issue which is of general interest in order to determine a common
approach. Before undertaking any action on the international scene or any commitment which
could affect the Union's interests, each Member State shall consult the others within the
European Council or the Council. Member States shall ensure, through the convergence of their
actions, that the Union is able to assert its interests and values on the international scene. Member
States shall show mutual solidarity."

"Member States shall make civilian and military capabilities available to the Union for the
implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives defined
by the Council."

Just a few quotes. It's a whole new constitution and it includes member states only. America is not a member state atleast not yet.

The next step is they have to agree on a president which will be the antichrist I assume.

http://www.unizar.es/euroconstitucion/Treaties/Treaty_Const.htm

 2007/10/10 7:30









 Re: EU Constitution-What Will America Do?

These are the member states:

Austria
On 11 May 2005 the Nationalrat (lower house) approved the Constitution. (182 Yes, 1 No)
The Bundesrat has ratified the Constitution on 25.05.2005. (59 Yes, 3 No)

more information about the ratification process in Austria


Belgium
On 19.05.05 the Belgian Parliament approved the Constitution. (118 Yes, 18 No, 1 abstention)
The Belgian Senate ratified the Constitution on 28.04.2005. ( 54 Yes, 9 No, 1 abstention)

more information about the ratification process in Belgium


Bulgaria
On 11.05.05 the Bulgarian Parliament approved the Constitution.




Cyprus
The Cyprus House of Representatives approved the Constitution on 30 June 2005. (30 Yes, 19 No, 1 abstention)

more information about the ratification process in Cyprus


Czech Republic
Ratification will be subject to a referendum. (postponed)

more information about the ratification process in the Czech Republic

Denmark
Ratification will be subject to a referendum. (postponed)

more information about the ratification process in Denmark

Estonia
On 09.05.06 the Estonian Parliament approved the Constitution. (73 Yes, 1 No)

more information about the ratification process in Estonia


Finland
On 5.12.06 the Finland´s parliament approved the Constitution. (125 Yes, 39 No),

more information about the ratification process in Finland


France
EU Constitution was rejected in a referendum on 29 May 2005. (results: Yes 45,13% - No 54,87% - Turnout 69,34%)

more information about the ratification process in France


Germany**
On 12 May 2005 the German Bundestag approved the Constitution. (568 Yes, 23 No, 2 abstentions).
The German Bundesrat has ratified the Constitution on 27.05.2005. (66 Yes, 3 abstentions).

more information about the ratification process in Germany


Greece
The parliamentary ratification was held on 19 April 2005, the Constitution has been ratified by an overwhelming majority. (268 Yes, 17 No)

more information about the ratification process in Greece


Hungary
The parliamentary ratification was held on 20 December 2004, the Constitution has been ratified by an overwhelming majority. (322 Yes, 12 No, 8 abstentions).

more information about the ratification process in Hungary


Ireland
Ratification will be subject to a referendum. (postponed)

more information about the ratification process in Ireland

Italy
On 25 January 2005 the Italian Chamber of Deputies (436 Yes, 28 No, 5 abstentions) and on 06 April the Italian Senate (217 Yes, 16 No) approved the Constitution.

more information about the ratification process in Italy


Latvia
The parliamentary ratification was held on 2 June 2005. (71 Yes, 5 No, 6 abstentions)

more information about the ratification process in Latvia


Lithuania
The parliamentary ratification was held on 11 November 2004. (84 Yes, 4 No, 3 abstentions)

more information about the ratification process in Lithuania


Luxembourg
Ratification was subject to a non-binding referendum on 10 July 2005, where Luxembourg people voted in favour of the Constitution. (Yes 56,52% - No 43,48%).

more information about the ratification process in Luxembourg


Malta
The parliamentary ratification was held on 06 July 2005. (65 Yes - unanimously)

more information about the ratification process in Malta


Netherlands
EU Constitution was rejected in a non-binding referendum on 1 June (result: Yes 38,4% - No 61,6% - Turnout 62,8%)
more information about the ratification process in the Netherlands


Poland
Ratification will be subject to a referendum. (postponed)

more information about the ratification process in Poland

Portugal
Ratification will be subject to a referendum. (postponed)

more information about the ratification process in Portugal

Rumania
Both Chambers ratified the Constitution on 17 May 2005.



Slovakia***
The parliamentary ratification was held on 11 May 2005. (116 Yes, 27 No, 4 abstentions)

more information about the ratification process in Slovakia


Slovenia
The parliamentary ratification was held on 01 February 2005. (79 Yes, 4 No, 7 abstentions)

more information about the ratification process in Slovenia


Spain
Ratification was subject to a non-binding referendum on 20 February 2005, where Spanish people voted in favour of the Constitution. (Yes 76.73% - No 17.24% - Turnout 42.32%)
The Spanish Parliament ratified the Constitution on 28.04.2005. (Yes 311 votes - No 19 votes)
The Spanish Senate ratified the Constitution on 18.05.2005. (Yes 225 votes - No 6 votes)

more information about the ratification process in Spain


Sweden
Ratification will be considered by Parliament (Riksday). No referendum to be held.

more information about the ratification process in Sweden

United Kingdom
Plans to organise a referendum were suspended.

 2007/10/10 7:38









 Re: EU Constitution-What Will America Do?


Brother (or sister)

Quote:
I was wondereing if any of you have ever read the EU constitution and do you think America will eventually become a member state before the antichrist comes?

What a great question. I'll be reading this thread with interest!

 2007/10/10 8:09









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Here's another quote:

"Any discrimination based on nationality between workers of the Member States as regards
employment, remuneration and other conditions of work and employment shall be prohibited.

3. Workers shall have the right, subject to limitations justified on grounds of public policy,
public security or public health:

(a) to accept offers of employment actually made;

(b) to move freely within the territory of Member States for this purpose;

(c) to stay in a Member State for the purpose of employment in accordance with the provisions
governing the employment of nationals of that State laid down by law, regulation or
administrative action;

(d) to remain in the territory of a Member State after having been employed in that State,
subject to conditions which shall be embodied in European regulations adopted by the
Commission.

4. This Article shall not apply to employment in the public service."



 2007/10/10 8:14









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"The Declaration of Independence" tells us what we should do.

Krispy

 2007/10/10 8:48









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"ARTICLE III-162

Any abuse by one or more undertakings of a dominant position within the internal market or in a
substantial part of it shall be prohibited as incompatible with the internal market insofar as it may
affect trade between Member States.

Such abuse may, in particular, consist in:


(a) directly or indirectly imposing unfair purchase or selling prices or other unfair trading
conditions;

(b) limiting production, markets or technical development to the prejudice of consumers;

(c) applying dissimilar conditions to equivalent transactions with other trading parties, thereby
placing them at a competitive disadvantage;

(d) making the conclusion of contracts subject to acceptance by the other parties of
supplementary obligations which, by their nature or according to commercial usage, have no
connection with the subject of such contracts."

-ANOTHER WORDS NO TRADING UNLESS YOUR A MEMBER STATE AND YOU CAN ONLY TRADE WITH MEMBER STATES.

I can see this is where the mark comes in. In order to roam about freely between the member states of which you will work, buy, sell and live you will have to have identification.






 2007/10/10 8:53
MikeH
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 Re: EU Constitution-What Will America Do?

glorytoglory wrote

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The next step is they have to agree on a president which will be the antichrist I assume.

They have had one since 1958; they change every six months. See [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_the_Council_of_the_European_Union]here[/url] (as good as any source) for details. Whether any of them have been the antichrist, is not for me to judge.

glorytoglory wrote
Quote:
America is not a member state atleast not yet.

I don't see the US applying for membership in the near future :-o It is, afterall, suppose to be the European Union, and the US is not that close, geographically, to Europe. I think the US see it more as a competitor on the world stage, or even a potential enemy, than a club to join. Besides you've got NAFTA, which is an attempt at copying the EU. But perhaps an American would be better to speak to that.

Mike

 2007/10/10 9:01Profile
MikeH
Member



Joined: 2006/9/21
Posts: 116


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glorytoglory wrote

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I can see this is where the mark comes in. In order to roam about freely between the member states of which you will work, buy, sell and live you will have to have identification.

It's called a passport. Try travelling to any other country without one, and you will find you'll have difficulty. If non-Americans want to work in the US, they will need not only a passport, but a visa also.

glorytoglory wrote
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-ANOTHER (sic) WORDS NO TRADING UNLESS YOUR A MEMBER STATE AND YOU CAN ONLY TRADE WITH MEMBER STATES.

The section is about market abuse, and is similar to anti-competitve legislation the world over. Trade is not limited to member states; just check the import and export trade figures for any country in Europe.

All you are doing is scaremongering with either wilful ignorance, or deliberate misinformation. There might be a useful debate on the topic somewhere, but this line of discussion, will only entrench already bigoted views that do not engender harmony.

Mike

 2007/10/10 9:15Profile









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MikeH Quote:

"They have had one since 1958; they change every six months. See here (as good as any source) for details. Whether any of them have been the antichrist, is not for me to judge."

True but they are looking for one that will bring about unity and a one world order. Only the antichrist will bring this about.They are searching for such a one. Everything is in order they are just waiting for the antichrist. The world is not going to accept this constitution until that happens. Jesus is coming! Praise God! : )



 2007/10/10 9:18
Tears_of_joy
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Joined: 2003/10/30
Posts: 1554


 Re:

Quote:
MikeH wrote:
They have had one since 1958; they change every six months. See here (as good as any source) for details. Whether any of them have been the antichrist, is not for me to judge.



Mike, EU [i]doesn't have[/i] president. It has [i]President of the European Commission[/i] which is not the same. What is "changing every six months" is the state in which "The Council of the European Union is presided".

EU is still Empire without Emperor.
And according to the new EU constitution that should be in charge very soon, EU should have president. Few months ago there was a meeting between the members of EU on which they had some disagreements on some subjects and finally they made agreement. After the meeting the Chancellor of Germany said that we should expect in 2009 EU to have a president.

 2007/10/10 9:22Profile





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