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Joshua99
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 Needing Spiritual advice concerning a tormenting demon

Not sure if the subject line is describing my issue. I need help, to be delivered from what I sense is a demonic attack. I'm not desiring anyone here to get critical etc. Sincerely, I'm tired of the lack of results on my part, so I'll get to the point. I've been a strong faith-based, scripture-based believer for 27 years. I serve as a Worship leader, a teacher of God's Word and have 2 prison ministries, where I do both, once each month. So I'm involved and love serving the Lord. The down side of this is at times at night, being married for 28 years, I get awakened ...sexually arroused, and I can't get back to sleep until...you know. This has gone as far as heading to internet porn sites, sometimes 3:00am in the morning, just to deal with the lust and then I can sleep. I live with the shame of this, and effect on me, spititually . I need Godly guidence to deal with my flesh, and the devils-to take every though captive..Yes... being aware of this, has anyone heard of such a problem, and knows the steps to combat this?? I would like a very dirrect answer, even a rhema word from the Lord, to meet this need!!! This is my first attempt to find help, so be sensitive in the Spirit. Thank you in advance, Bryan


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 2007/10/9 22:27Profile
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 Re: Needing Spiritual advice concerning a tormenting demon

Hi Bryan...

I won't pretend to know a quick answer to this addiction -- but we do know the One who holds the answer. I will be praying for you. Let me encourage you to seek God with everything within you. This addiction may [i]not[/i] be from a "tormenting demon," but rather a very active "sinful nature" that is common to all men.

David Wilkerson created an organization that dealt with addiction called [i]Teen Challenge[/i] (an awkward name, since it has historically been geared toward adults). In his book, [i]The Cross and the Switchblade[/i], Brother Wilkerson speaks about how many individuals were able to overcome addictions to sex, drugs, violence and pornography.

This is certainly a serious matter, and should be treated accordingly. Sin is sin, and it was such sin that caused the willing death of the Son of God. But take heart: God provides a way of escape. From your post, you seem to reveal that you [u]hate[/u] this sin. Good! I will be praying for you to now [u]overcome[/u] this sin. Sometimes, the battle is not always with specific demons that serve to [i]tempt[/i] us, but with the sinful nature within us.

I will be praying for you. I encourage you to pray -- even when it is uncomfortable. When you wake up in the middle of the night, don't turn on the computer. Get on your knees (yes, physically) and seek God's face. I've always noticed that it is "uncomfortable" to sin when you're looking toward the face of God.

Thank you for your willingness to humble yourself through this request. May the Lord grant you the freedom that you are desperate for!

:-)


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Christopher

 2007/10/9 22:41Profile









 Re: Needing Spiritual advice concerning a tormenting demon

Ahh, every man's battle.

Joshua it seems that what is happening to you is that the LORD is stirring things up in your heart and bringing them to the surface. Your problem is not going to be easy to get rid of, it would be nice to say in "Jesus name" be gone.

You say your married to a wife of 28 years, your about to lose her if you don't do something about the internet. If you can't get rid of it, install [url=http://www.internetsafety.com/safe-eyes/]Safe Eyes[/url] and get a trusted friend to key in the pass word. I have it on mine, your not the only brother with this problem. Solving the internet woe is easy, getting to the root of the problem is another story.

You should talk to your wife about these urges that you have in the night and consider her as your means of release.

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1 Corinthians 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

For you to look elsewhere other than your wife is giving off a bad testimony for the single men out there.

There is nothing wrong with the normal bodily function of a man, it's only wrong when we do abnormal things with it.
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James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

This lust is not just talking about sex, but other kinds of lusts that men get caught up in like the pride of life, the deceitfulness of riches.

I have some stories that I would like to share with you regarding this, but it's late here and I have to hit the hay. But I strongly urge you to consider getting that filter, don't think for once that you have control over it.

But your answer is the cross, if I may interest you into listening to this radio program that deals on the very subject that your speaking of. You won't find quick answers, but you'll feel a lot better knowing that your not alone. [url=http://www.jsm.org/explore.cfm/jimmyswaggart/itinerary]Scroll Right and listen[/url]

 2007/10/9 23:10
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 Re: Needing Spiritual advice concerning a tormenting demon

Joshua99, Hi,I think this is a common problem with men. If i were the devil i would use this drive[in men] to full advantage.
When I used to hunt, the best hunting was when the deer were mating.Those bucks were out of their minds crazy for the does.
This is the battle for purity. And we will win.
You seem to be a strong christian. So that means you have seen many "goliaths" go down.
Remember what David said...." This one will go down like all the others.
....I know you will win bro. I can sense this.
In 1996 I went through deliverence at a church.
It was so awesome![I dont say you need deliverence.You have to decide that]But there was a demon that was in me.The people that were there were only able to get it to manifest.They could not cast it out. When the head of the deliverence team came in she [thats right SHE]said"put me up to speed whats going on" They told her there is something and it wont come out.
By now I thought I'm hopeless .Shes going to tell me" well david there is nothing we can do for you" Was I wrong! WITH AUTHORITY SHE SPOKE TO THAT THING AND SAID " YOU PUT ON SOME BIG EARS AND LISTEN UP!" And she very bluntly cast it out.. I got to tell you when she activated faith she activated my faith and i said to that thing "YOU MUST OBEY"
I actually saw the thing and it did leave.


Bro. I got to tell you without determination we will loose.
You MUST be spirit dominated. As you take the steps to Resist the spirit meets you.
We cannot musterr the will power to fight this powerfull of a ttemptation.BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS HOLD JESUS UP TO THE TEMPTATION.
Remember Jesus was tempted in all things and yet he remained sinless.
Throw out options. Subcontiously we think of options. Make this your "contious" Porn is not an opttion,giving in is not an option. Watching tv is not an opttion Etc.
Men are "visual" oriented so guard your "eye gates"
GEt overly disciplined for a season. Work out etc.
You will win bro.!!!!!
....David

 2007/10/9 23:17Profile









 Re: Needing Spiritual advice concerning a tormenting demon

Hey Brian,

Some scriptures that help me when I'm tempted in the night and [i]think[/i] I'm alone...

"Wherefore seeing [i]we[/i] also [i]are compassed about with[/i] so great [i]a cloud of witnesses[/i], let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us" (HEB 12:1)

We're not alone: saints, angels, devils, and God all watch in apprehension - even if we close and lock the door, turn off the light, or whatever else.

Everyone's watching. You're not alone. Remember that.

"And after the sop Satan entered into him (Judas). Then said Jesus unto him, [i]That thou doest, do quickly.[/i]" (JOHN 13:27)

How many times did Judas steal from the disciples' common purse? How many times did he push his conscience away and give ground to Satan?

How many times must one tell the Holy Ghost to "shut up" before committing the unpardonable sin?

"For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night." (I THES 5:2)

And if you're hit by a Mac truck the morning after viewing porn? Can you stand in the presence of "our God (who) is a consuming fire"? (HEB 12:29)

We are surrounded by the eyes of the saints, devils, angels, and God...

We have the Holy Ghost telling us we shouldn't...

And we could be standing before His throne tomorrow morning.

"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne." (REV 3:21)

Brother, you don't need consolation or compassion from people who share in your sin. This is between you and God.

You need to war with that sin. Take back the ground that Satan's gained in your body, soul, mind, and spirit.

And above all, learn to fear God again - because, if this is happening, you don't fear Him anywhere near as much as you should.

Btw, if I sound harsh it's because I need to be harsh to deal with certain temptations myself. Sin doesn't deserve a handkerchief - it deserves fire, violence, and hell.

 2007/10/10 2:06
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 Lives of Quiet Desperation...

dear Saints
Greetings in Jesus' Name by Whose Blood we are Saved.AMEN.

the issue of lust seems like (to me anyway) the primary weapon of the enemy against men in particular. it may not necessarily be directed to women, but to wealth, cars or whatever else. it is quite tragic though that our tendancy as men is to suffer in silence out of fear of condemnation/embarrasment...putting a brave face on while often dying inside in despair and hopelessness. As Christians, we tend to advise more quickly than we do empathize. most of the time, the thing that is needed isn't so much a definition of what is right and wrong, that can be discerned by the reactions of the affected parties, what is often missed is simply trying to understand what is at the root of the issue. to keep all that inside leaves one as a target for the enemy's arrows time and time again.

this issue is rampant among Christian men and yet it isn't talked about much perhaps fo fear of embarassment, or condemnation or whatever it is, at the end of the day it leaves the men of God separated from one another and sitting ducks, which is what the enemy would want. We jump up and down about all sorts of other issues but this one of lust among us gets lost in the shuffle...yet this causes a terrible, untold amount of damage in the body. Paul said that we who are strong in the Faith ought to bear the infirmities of the weak. a couple of weeks ago, a dear brother of mine in Christ shared something which our Lord had been showing him about bearing one another's burdens that they may be dispatched sooner. There is something to be said about empathizing, it gives hope and allows God to work to deal with the situation.

let us bear one another's burdens without condemntation, condescention or anything other than the Love and Compassion of Jesus that we may be loosed from whatever binds us.AMEN.let us pray for one another. dear saints.

Grace and Peace are ours in Jesus.AMEN.


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 2007/10/10 2:19Profile
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 Re: Needing Spiritual advice concerning a tormenting demon

Bro,
to be blunt, and yes sensitive... I too have had times of testing.
The kingdom of God suffers violence but the violent take it by force.

#1 verbalize your problem to your wife...
confess. and as long as you do not confess you will remain in bondage.
#2 pray together as a couple to get rid of this thing and if necessary go to church leadership and have them pray over you and hold you accountable..
true discipleship.

#3. the source is the enemy,and probably due to your prison ministry, I dont know this for sure but it sounds like your pretty busy and when were busy we let our prayer lives slip.. Just an observation from past experiences..
Remember God still loves you and if you confess your sins and repent, he will be faithful and just to forgive your sins..
Get violent against your situation, when the tempter comes at night get out of bed and cry out to God, Loudly not in your head. wake up your wife and have her pray with you.
if that isnt enough which I surely think it will be.
Throw your computer out of your house.
If your eye causes you to sin its better to pluck it out than to go to hell with both eyes.
you know what I mean.
Your going to beat this.
God bless.


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 2007/10/10 4:41Profile
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 Re: Needing Spiritual advice concerning a tormenting demon

Thank you everyone for responding and your heartfelt encouragement. I have taken most of the advice shared since last night. My wife is well aware of the sin issue and is mature in the Lord to handle it by prayer.I even informed her about sharing this here online. I believe.Cory_H has nailed the answer for me, as the Spirit of God confirmed by the Word, that the Fear of the Lord is the key to overcoming sin. I have an imtimate relationship with the Lord, but being human and still under construction >so to speak< I can become distant in my time with the Lord. Today was a very good day in prayer, meditation on the Word and comuning with the Father. The battle as the Spirit of God has shown me, time after time will be a fight, this will not happen over night, that I know. I long for the Baptism of the Spirit and of Fire. To be filled up like the early Apostles and believers. To know God's Presence and walk with Him as one is the desire from Heaven place in my heart. To surrender all that I am to the Lordship of Jesus Christ is my journey. The devil is well aware of that. So again thanks and I will keep in touch from time to time. Blessings in Jesus upon you!


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To know God's Presence and walk with Him as one is the desire from Heaven place in my heart.


Bryan, your testimony is a tremendous blessing to me. I appreciate your willingness to humbly seek the wider body of believers for a problem that you admit is beyond your own strength. I also am blessed by your desire to seek God first and formost.

Indeed, many want to eradicate a bad habit more than they want Christ. And, of course, the more you think about the habit, the more you reinforce it. Even if you succeed in eradicating the sin with your own determination, you merely leave an empty "house" for other bad habits to fill (ex pride).

Did you notice that the apostle Paul doesn't merely tell us to quit sinning? He always tells us what to replace it with.
"Do not get drunk with wine, BUT be filled with the Holy Spirit"

"Rather clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature." Rom.13:14

Someone said once, 'The brain is the main sex organ". Undeniably, it is in our minds where sin originates too. No wonder Paul said: "Do not be conformed to the patterns of this world BUT
be transformed by the renewing of you minds." Rom. 12:2

Bryan, You are doing just this, praise God! May the Lord give you a craving for him, and may his Spirit fill you and enlighten you more and more each day.

May the Lord protect you from evil influences/spirits that surround you when you are serving in the prison.

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this issue is rampant among Christian men and yet it isn't talked about much perhaps fo fear of embarassment, or condemnation or whatever it is, at the end of the day it leaves the men of God separated from one another and sitting ducks, which is what the enemy would want. We jump up and down about all sorts of other issues but this one of lust among us gets lost in the shuffle



Ironman, I also appreciate your words. Sure, this is about a male problem primarily, but really everyone is affected. When one part of the Body (of Christ) suffers, all the parts suffer. We all need each other in the journey to victory.

I cannot tell you how many wives have shared their feelings of being used by their husbands - to feed a never-satisfied "need". Wives suffer when their husbands are not willing to admit their addiction. How can this not have a huge ripple effect - affecting family and even beyond?!


Indeed we live in a sex-crazed society. And it doesn't help to pluck out the eyes. There is a much deeper, radical death to undergo - an ongoing crucifixion - and resurrection in Christ.

Hey, brothers, we're all in that together, are we not?

Diane







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 2007/10/11 8:01Profile
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 Re: Needing Spiritual advice concerning a tormenting demon

Hi Joshua

You ask for spiritual advice so by God's grace I will speak according to the word. This is not being critical, but to help you look to Jesus and believe. My desire is to lead you by the word and not my own feelings or emotions.

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I've been a strong faith-based, scripture-based believer for 27 years. I serve as a Worship leader, a teacher of God's Word and have 2 prison ministries,



This is what you said. You say that you are strong faith based scripture. I hope you can see the error of your word so you will see what is needed. If you were strong in believing the word than you would believe that you have died with Christ and that sin does not reign in you. I bring this up not to condemn, but to help you see that you really lack faith.

Knowing you are lacking faith then you need to spend time HEARING the word. The word says faith comes by HEARING the word. The Lord told Joshua to meditate on His word day and night so that he will walk according to His ways (josh. 1:9). Meditation is different from just reading it. Savor His word like a good meal. ponder over His word thru out the day, let it speak to you, it is life and will bring healing. Hebrew 4:12 says that the word IS living and powerful, sharper than a two edged sword, dividing bone and marrow, exposing the heart! The word will cut your heart, but don't fear, it will bring life too! Knowing the word is living and powerful you must then meditate on it daily, learning to be lead by His word and not by sight nor your feelings.

Joshua, there is a wall between you and God right now because of bongage to sin.

Listen, Rom. 8 says that to be carnally minded is death....because carnal mind is enmity to God. You cannot walk in the Spirit with this bondage. You cannot have it both ways. Read Rom. 8.

If your walking in the Spirit, the Spirit will not lead you to bondage. That is your flesh that you are still walking in. Paul tells us the works of the flesh in Gal.5:19-21. He says those who PRACTICE this will not enter the kingdom.

I am speaking straight with you because I am concern about your soul.

You are also putting yourself in more danger by being a teacher and doing ministry. Read rom. 2. it is a sober warning to those who teach God's word, and live a hypocritical life. To carry God's name as teacher and minister is a BIG DEAL. Rom. 2 says wrath is stored up for the hypocrites. I know these are strong words, but even Paul and Jesus gave such warnings too.

You should not be teaching and doing ministry right now. You should be devoting all the time seeking God for the saving of your soul. You need to cry out to Him until you know He has granted you repentance. You need to be spending much time with Him in hearing His word until He grants you faith to believe. Look to the SON. Don't focus all your energy on the sin. You've confess, now look to the SON for healing. Seek and hunger for Him like treasure, make Him above all. Throw away the computer, if you have too! Jesus says cut out your eye if it causes you to sin. Meaning get rid of all the things that is causing you to stumble. The computer is not worth you going to hell. Trash it, if you have too.


Will be praying for you.

Love, Lisa


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