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Joined: 2007/4/26
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(Encouraging kidz to talk to God)
*Teaching kids the importance of prayer
*What it means to pray
*How to talk to God
Meet Nathan: an average, middle school student who lives in a small mid-western town with his parents and two sisters.

One night, at the dinner table, his dad starts a discussion about the importance of prayer. During which, he tells Nathan that he needs to be thankful and pray for everything, even when you go through your day at school. That's when Nathan said, "But dad, we can't pray in school; everybody knows that." And his sisters agreed, "yeah dad, we're not aloud to pray in school."

Unfortunately there are many students across the country who are just like Nathan, they really believe that, somehow, it's against the law to pray in school. It's not suprising if you listen to what many voices, from both sides of the debate, are saying about prayer in school.

All too common phrases like, "They've taken prayer out of the public school." Or, "God has been removed from the class room," Have left many mis-informed and has led to a distorted view of the facts concerning prayer in the public school.

The Beginning
In 1962, the Supreme Court passed a law which states, "The act of leading students in prayer was ruled unconstitutional…" (Supreme Court Case Engel v. Vitale, p 422-436 Miller, para. 4)

This case came about when a school district in New Hyde Park, New York directed the School District's principal to cause the following prayer to be said aloud by each class in the presence of a teacher at the beginning of each school day: ''Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence upon Thee, and we beg Thy blessings upon us, our parents, our teachers and our Country.'' Thus prayers led by, and sanctioned by, school officials was prohibited.

Fortunately, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects all Americans, both believers and nonbelievers by mandating government neutrality between belief and nonbelief. The government, and the administrators, who run our schools, may not lead children in prayer or force them to pray a certain way. However: All children have the right to pray voluntarily before, during, or after school, and non-religious children do not have to pray at all.

In other words during free time at school, whether it's lunch, in between classes, or any other time of the day when you are able to talk to your friends you can also talk to God, and you can talk to your friends about God. Kids all over the country are taking advantage of opportunities to tell their classmates about God's love. When your friends are talking about there newest CD, I-pod, or Web-Site, you can use that time to tell them the good news of Jesus.

Not only will the school allow you to pray during these times but, in case you're wondering, you can read your Bible in school as well. In fact you'll find a copy of the Bible in just about every school and public Library across the nation. No one in America has outlawed prayer or the Bible…not even in the public school.

Personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. The first amendment to the Constitution gives us the right to religious freedom in this country. Students can pray and read the Bible. The law is clear on this point.

Religious activity in the public schools has been growing in recent years. In the last several decades many religious groups have placed increased interest in student evangelism, and have established thousands of prayer and Bible study clubs in the public schools. Such activity is protected, as it should be, by the Equal Access Amendment, which guarantees students the right to form religious clubs to the same extent they have the right to participate in other extra-curricular activities They can't make you pray, but they won't keep you from praying either.

This case first came to court in 1962 and twenty-eight years later there was a group of teens who gathered for a retreat. During the retreat they felt burdened to pray for their fellow students. They gathered around the flagpoles of three separate schools to pray. The teens prayed for their friends, the school, and school leaders. God birthed from this the idea that has come to be known as, "See You At the Pole." On September 12, 1990, 45,000 teenagers gathered at the flagpole in four different states to pray before school started that morning. One-year later one million students from Boston to California gathered at 7:00 a.m. to pray prior to the start of school. This ministry has continued to grow over the years since. Now more than three million students from coast-to-coast and around the world gather to pray one day a year.

Students not only meet once a year at the flagpoles of their schools but there are more and more school football teams that will gather for student-led and student-initiated prayer at high school football games. This shows that there is a desire to be able to pray at school. The Congress may have removed the traditional time of prayer that was observed in the classroom but students have found other ways to include prayer and God in their school day. Proving, like Daniel, if you want to pray nothing can stand in your way.© copyright 2007 Roy J. Belt
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*You can learn more about:
The Free Exercise Clause and The 14 Ammendment
Establishment Clause
The Equal Access Amendment
And the Constitution of The United States at:
The National Archives

 2007/9/8 8:36Profile

Joined: 2007/1/31
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 Re: prayer

I agree prayer in school. But I think it frist starts in the Homes...

In His love


 2007/9/11 1:33Profile

Joined: 2007/4/26
Posts: 24


Amen, i agree 100%. This, however is not a push for prayer in school. This is an information site for kids to let them know the facts about prayer in their everyday lives and everyday surroundings. To teach children that prayer and the Bible and God and the Gospelk is not something that must be confined to their homes or their churches but in the very fabric of their everyday existence. Prayer, God and the Bible are not banned topics in school. This will hopefully shed some light on that fact (with grace and love). Freedom of relegion and speach do not stop at the school house doors. But school is not our main focus....we want kids to make prayer as much a part of their lives as eating or anything else they do on a regular basis.!

 2007/10/23 23:41Profile

Joined: 2007/4/26
Posts: 24


When we first began to develope the ciriculum for "" ministries we talked with alot of kids on the subject of prayer. And one young boy (about 8) put it in a way that was so simple yet so easily forgotten by many adults even.
He said, "When i talk to God i talk to him like i'm talking to my best friend...because i am!"
This same kid had been through his parents divorce and, unfortunantly, his mom remarried and one day i got a call that his step dad had been arrested for beating his mom up and it happened right in front of him and his sister. When my wife and i showed up to talk with the family that little boy came and met me at the door and said something that made me know that God had been useing our influence for his glory in that young boy's life. He said, "Roy, i was so scared but the first thing i did was pray." His sister (who is a couple years older then he) said that he came and got her and they went to the bathroom and prayed! Some time has went by now and (without going into the details) let me just say that God has moved in their family. They attend church regularly and God is in that home. And those two children know that God heard their prayer! That's what this ministry is all about....teaching and encouraging kids to prayer! Because God has promised that if we call upon him he will hear and answer our prayer. No matter how young (or old) we may be.
Be encouraged...God Loves You!
Roy Belt :-) :-) :-)

 2007/10/23 23:53Profile

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