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HomeFree89
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 What Do You Think of This Quote?

“When Marie Monson, a Norwegian missionary to China, was taken captive by Chinese pirates, she subsisted fro two weeks on just three or four eggs a day rather than eat stolen food. The pirates would often come and urge her to eat more. But she would always reply, “No, I cant’ eat what you have looted.” Yet we have had little or no problem freely giving our money to places that one week show blatant pornography and violence, and the next week some nice “family flick.” Where is our sense of dignity and uprightness? Where is our abhorrence for sin?” (Dr. Michael Brown, How Saved Are We?)

Your thoughts and how do we apply this to all areas of life?

Jordan


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Jordan

 2007/9/6 16:08Profile
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 Re: What Do You Think of This Quote?

You cannot live life captive to another persons conscience.

In Christ,

Ron


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Ron Halverson

 2007/9/6 16:22Profile









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I should think, your question has everything to do with us having 'the Mind of Christ', that we are growing into, by being transformed by the renewing of our mind - taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ and by the washing of His Word.
The world scoffs at "moral absolutes" - but that is all that His Word and His Spirit teach.
We were taught, when it doubt - side with the strongest side of your conscience.
If Marie Monson was a missionary to these Chinese people, how could she have done any less than what she did ?

Written Epistles read of all men. Professing Christians may be the only Bible that men get to read or know - even in the little things. And sometimes, most especially in the little things.
That is not legalism - it is His love in us for others.

Jordan - very happy that your father's blood sugar regulated with just the O.J..
I've found that as we age, the roles of parent and child reverse. You may feel that now and then, but I'm sure you don't let it on to him. Bless you for "honoring your father".

 2007/9/6 23:45
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Proverbs 9:17-18

"She saith to him, 'stolen waters taste sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant', But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell."

It is not food which defiles, but that which precedes from the heart which defiles a man. Eating eggs is not a sin, but violating the scriptures is. She believed that verses like "Let him who stole, steal no longer" applied in her situation.

I read Ephesians 4 and 5, where it says "filthy language, coarse jesting, and foolish talking" should not be named amongst saints even once. This seems to me to mean I cannot take pleasure in any film or TV show or music that employs such for entertainment.

 2007/9/7 2:48Profile









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If I have food available to me and my neighbor asks if I'd like some of the food that they just pilfered from the local grocer - should I eat their stolen food or should I just eat what I have ?

I can't understand how such a simple moral decision can become so complicated.

Beats me.

I think the biggest question I have is, why do they sell "Cuss-Busters" at the local Christian Book Store ?
I'm sure the plot must be really be edifying, if the language in these movies they're watching need "cuss-busters". :-?

 2007/9/7 4:26
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HE_Reigns wrote:
I think the biggest question I have is, why do they sell "Cuss-Busters" at the local Christian Book Store ?
I'm sure the plot must be really be edifying, if the language in these movies they're watching need "cuss-busters". :-?



Seriously. :-(


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Matthew Miskiewicz

 2007/9/7 7:51Profile









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I think we should concentrate on what Paul is saying here and avoid the great majority of evangelical "chrsitians" and "christianity" instead. You do not sin by going into a movie house to see a wholesome film if your conscience does not condemn you (I personally dont watch movies). HOWEVER, we have a clear command in scripture not to patronize family Christian bookstores and other "ministries" that claim to be brethren but sell garbage by false teachers like Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer and Rob Bell.

1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

In Christ - Jim

 2007/9/7 8:29
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You cannot live life captive to another persons conscience.



Well said Ron.

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I read Ephesians 4 and 5, where it says "filthy language, coarse jesting, and foolish talking" should not be named amongst saints even once. This seems to me to mean I cannot take pleasure in any film or TV show or music that employs such for entertainment.



Not to misrepresent what you stated, but 'cannot' or [i]Do not[/i] ?


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Not to misrepresent what you stated, but 'cannot' or Do not ?



I thought he meant [i]should not[/i].


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Matthew Miskiewicz

 2007/9/7 9:04Profile
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Hi Nile,

Yeah, I recognize that as well and didn't want to be overtly didactic ... Drawing off of Ron's note was looking at the distinction of what compels our conscience ... what our particular 'oughts' and 'ought not's stem from ... Maybe I am thing more along the lines of desire vs. mandate?


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