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China warned the U.S. last week that if we didn't stop harrassing them about the trade inbalance they would dump the U.S. currency.



We're a bunch of fools if we think the current Chinese government is our friend. Unfortunately we've created a lot of these messes we're currently in. I'll definately agree with that.

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 2007/8/14 6:43
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 Re: Was President Jimmy Carter's famous speech prophetic?

Carter said...

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Human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns.




In an article written

by Paul L. Kasriel
Senior Vice President & Director of Economic Research
The Northern Trust Company
August 13, 2007



From 1929 through 2006, there were only 13 years in which households incurred deficits – i.e., spent more in total than they earned after taxes. Two of these household-deficit years occurred during the Great Depression of the 1930s, three occurred shortly after the end of World War II and one occurred in 1955. The remaining seven household-deficit years occurred in 1999 and 2001 through 2006. Three things to note: (1) that households have run deficits in six out of the past seven years is unprecedented; (2) the magnitude of the 2004, 2005 and 2006 household deficits are unprecedented, and; (3) the household deficits starting in 1999 occurred in a period when asset prices showed extraordinary increases....


end of thought in article...

The fruits of what President Carter warned this nation of are being manifested by the debt we incur to create the identity of our outward appearance. This is moral decay which has permeated both the leaders and the subjects of this nation.

We are drunk with a wine that causes us as a nation to stumble.

In Christ
Jeff


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 Re: Was President Jimmy Carter's famous speech prophetic?

Carter's speechwriters were well informed and accurate...but unfortunately Carter was not a strong enough President to make self control look good.

The secular humanists were already in place in the schools, pushing me, me, and me.

[u][i]Looking out for No. 1[/u][/i] was published soon after this speech, a harbinger of things to come.

Self control looks even worse now.

And even though I fight for self control myself, and have virtually no personal debt, we are caught in a trap set when the Federal Reserve was instituted, and when the trap was set off as we went off the gold standard under Nixon, with Democrats in power in both Houses agreeing to it.

The corporate interests won.

Their political friends won on both sides.

We have legalized theft via inflation, as well as through corporately pushed goods AND debt.

Half the country does not care what happens [i]next[/i] year so long as [i]this[/i] year they look good.

I hate it, but in reality, what can we do?

It's [b][i]supposed[/i][/b] to happen.


Blessings,

Forrest


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I wouldn't place too much stock in anything Jimmy Carter-related. The man is anti-Israel and therefore, in my books, not credible.

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Mom said: I wouldn't place too much stock in anything Jimmy Carter-related. The man is anti-Israel and therefore, in my books, not credible.

Mom, do you have credible sources for this? can you list online statements given by Jimmy Carter for his anti Israel stance?

Thank you

 2007/8/18 13:24
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Mom, do you have credible sources for this? can you list online statements given by Jimmy Carter for his anti Israel stance?



You betcha, absolutely. The most recent anti-Israel tirades are well-documented in his latest book, "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid".

Check out this website, with statements from that very book:

[url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/11/the_world_according_to_jimmy_c.html]http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/11/the_world_according_to_jimmy_c.html[/url]

This one as well:

[url=http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-carter8dec08,0,7999232.story?coll=la-home-commentary]http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-carter8dec08,0,7999232.story?coll=la-home-commentary[/url]

The man is clearly anti-Israel. If he was a Bible-believing Christian, he would realize that the long-standing agression between Arabs and Jews dates back to Abraham and Sarah/Hagar. The Word is clear, there will never be peace between Jews and Arabs - Genesis 16:12.

If you need more proof, just Google "jimmy carter" and "israel" and you'll see for yourself.

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Hi Compliments and Mom...

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Mom said: I wouldn't place too much stock in anything Jimmy Carter-related. The man is anti-Israel and therefore, in my books, not credible.

Mom, do you have credible sources for this? can you list online statements given by Jimmy Carter for his anti Israel stance?

While I wouldn't go so far as to say that Carter is anti-Israel, he has been accused of unfairly taking the side of the Palestinians. Recently, fourteen "fellow" members of the Carter Center (Jimmy Carter's organization for world policy) recently resigned as a result of Carter's latest book, "[i]Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid[/i]." The controversial book speaks about Carter's own view about the prospects of peace in the Middle East. Some have accused the book of being soft on Palestinian terrorism, as well as signifying that the root of all terrorism in the Middle East is the establishment (and Western recognition) of the State of Israel.

In the public letter that was signed by these former Carter Fellows, Carter was reprimanded for painting what they considered an "untrue" portrayal of Palestinians living under "the thumb of a brutal occupying force." These former members stated that they expected such slanted information from "uninformed journalists with an agenda," but not from a former President and renowned public figure. They also stated:
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The facts in dealing with the conflict are these: There are two national narratives contesting one piece of land. The Israelis, through deed and public comment, have consistently spoken of a desire to live in peace and make territorial compromise to achieve this status. The Palestinian side has consistently resorted to acts of terror as a national expression and elected parties endorsing the use of terror, the rejection of territorial compromise and of Israel’s right to exist. Palestinian leaders have had chances since 1947 to have their own state. …

A professor from Harvard Law School, Alan Dershowitz, offered to allow President Carter the opportunity to address students about the themes in the book and take part in an open debate on the issue. Carter accepted the offer to speak, but without any sort confrontation through questions or debate.

While there are certainly some questions about reported Israeli conduct in regards to the Palestinians, it is impossible to speak or write about this issue without an advanced knowledge of the situation. There are many false rumours about the situation which often go reported by the press. The root of the issue is not at the Israeli buildings. Rather, the Palestinians (who NEVER had an official state, but rather, a territory) REFUSED to adhere to the British and UN mandates for dividing the territory (which actually worked in the favor of the Palestinians, giving them the better areas). The Palestinians refused any division of the land amongst the Jews and Palestinians, and war ensued (again and again and...).

Even today, while the public leadership of Palestinians claims to only want the original mandate recognized, everyone involved in the process realizes that this is simply untrue. The Muslim world wants Israel to be completed removed with all Middle Eastern lands in the control of Muslims. While there has always been a question about the fairness of the land taken following the Palestinian refusal of cooperation and losses from the subsequent wars, the fact remains that there was a strong Jewish presence in the land [u]BEFORE[/u] 1948. The idea that the Jews (on behalf of the US, UK and the UN) completely uprooted an already existing government is simply untrue.

Regardless, here are some articles about the book and both the criticism and support thereof. I hope this helps...

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/books/14cart.html?ex=1323752400&en=b64637188428bfe8&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss]New York Times Book Review[/url]

[url=http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/12/carter-and-his-critics-the-skirmishes-continue/]Article about Book and resignations[/url]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/06/AR2006120602171.html]Washington Post article about Book[/url]

[url=http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/07/news/carter.php]International Herald Tribune article[/url]

[url=http://www.meforum.org/article/1633]Academic Policy Journal, [i]Middle East Forum[/i], criticism of Carter's book[/url]

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16579676/]MSNBC article about resignation of Carter fellows[/url]

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/11/carter.resignations/index.html]CNN article about resignations[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riHpRWhN3lI
Video of Carter's apology concerning some of his comments in the book[/url]

[url=http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=24844]Baptist Press News article about possible Arab financial ties for book[/url]

[url=http://www.newsbusters.org/node/10405]Criticism of possible bias in CNN's coverage of Carter book situation[/url]

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 Re: Was President Jimmy Carter's famous speech prophetic?

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We remember when the phrase "sound as a dollar" was an expression of absolute dependability, until 10 years of inflation began to shrink our dollar and our savings. We believed that our Nation's re sources were limitless until 1973, when we had to face a growing dependence on foreign oil.



Three days after this speech President Carter asked Paul Volker to take the position of the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. In short order Volker began to raise interest rates that destroyed inflation. You see, inflation is caused by loose money policies and easy lending standards. As more people are allowed to borrow more money, the prices of the assets which people are purchasing increase beyond the assets actual value.

But now looking back, we see that what Carter warned the nation of, seeking to created our identity by what we own, has come to be. There has never been a time in this nations history where the common folk have owed so much to own so little.

In Christ
Jeff


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Many in the world mockingly called President Carter the "peanut farmer." The 'peanut farmer" had a plaque on his desk which said something to this affect...

"My God your sea is so vast, and my boat is so small."

In Christ
Jeff


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