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Maybe he copied it from somewhere/one else ?

Could be why I 'never' heard it before ?

Thank GOD for all the Body parts of the Body.

I doubt that he would purposely deceive.

 2007/7/20 21:14
PaulWest
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I doubt that he would purposely deceive.



I don't think he would deceive either, sister. I just think that in order to make such a theory fit, you have to paint a bullseye around an arrow. It would have to be forced. Hence the bracketed insertion we saw. Why didn't God mention Simon in all four accounts? I believe it was to teach us to measure scripture against [i]all[/i] scripture. If, in the Word of God, we find 99 accounts indicating one thing, but we find 1 account indicating another, we must stop all engines and dig for the one reconcilling verse. When we discover this one verse, we can now join the 99 with the 1 and arrive at 100% truth. But if we fail have 100% truth and try instead to purport only 75% truth, we end up with 100% error.


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Paul Frederick West

 2007/7/20 21:41Profile









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Of course I know that is truer than true brother Paul. It's just how it was posted, as if he had discussed it with someone and posted that part about Pilate thinking Jesus was innocent and all and I was surprised I had never heard that but was open to not knowing everything ... ha ... believe it or not. :-)

I trust folks, until they give me reason not to.

I'm full blown Berean, but in this instance, I didn't check on his post. I don't want to be suspicious neither. Fine balance between Berean and fine tooth combing 'every' post. Phew.
That was hard enough to do on the Israel thread.

Bless ya and 1% arsenic in a gallon of cool-aid can kill. I truly do understand. 8-)

 2007/7/20 21:49
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Yes, sister, I understand. My first post seemed accusatory. I think he said that someone shared this concept with him; he may have been only cutting and pasting. It was wrong of me to assume the bracketed content was of his own doing.

Forgive me, brother. I will try to be more sensitive to things like this.

Brother Paul


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Paul Frederick West

 2007/7/20 22:05Profile









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Paul, you have always been a gentlemen.

He said the emphasis was his, so I think he can explain why he did it ... but it's not that you are too hard. You're the type of Christian that I wish I were in explaining things. I try not to sound blunt, but sometimes I just 'assume' folks know that I mean no harm.

Bless you brother always.

 2007/7/20 22:10
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1% arsenic in a gallon of cool-aid can kill

:-)

Good one GrannieAnnie

I wish I could express myself half as good as you and PaulWest can.


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TJ

 2007/7/20 22:16Profile
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Dear sister,

Remember I mentioned certain "missing link" verses? Well, one such verse is Matthew 16:24: "If any man will come after me," Jesus said, "he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me."

Now, can you imagine Peter and the others beholding Simon carry their Lord's cross from the Praetorium all the way to Golgotha? "The Lord told us to take up our crosses and follow him," they could think. "But he hasn't carried his cross at all! Pilate said he doesn't have to...because he's innocent!"

Do you see the subtle error in such a theory? When you look at it in the light of the "big picture" it seems to throw the core truth of the gospel into deadly disarray. Like a kind of spiritual marijuana, it can open the door to even more deadly error. Is God the Author of such confusion, such havoc? No, no. Every Word in the Bible is very pure, purified 7 times by the Spirit. We need to handle it as such.

Brother Paul


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Paul Frederick West

 2007/7/20 22:40Profile









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Bless you brother TJ. I learn from everyone here and have been blessed by everyone here.

Even in contentions, I'm trying to learn to temper this side of me. I just fear divisions among us and it took a long time for me to figure out that that's what makes me go off the hook. I'd laugh but it hasn't been funny to me at all. I'd go off-line and not be able to sleep because of what I posted, but could only pray that GOD would initiate the Rom 8:28 to it.
I like saying, I don't know everything. It always gives me an inner joy to say that. I like reading everyone's posts as if they are my Family (we know we are :), but each person matters here. I try to look beyond the monitor into what the person is --- in the sense of what they're really saying from their hearts, I guess I mean. Some folks can post really rough, but I've felt such a softness under all those typed words ... it's really neat. I think God took most of my brain away so I could 'feel' more. Sorta like when a someone becomes blind, their hearing gets better. I was just used to Apologetic debates before and strictly that, so this has been my "retirement" place now where I can chill and enjoy our Fellowship - Amen.
I still have a very long way to go but that's why I like coming here, to be refined and all's I can do is put people before doctrines, and only put doctrines first if the doctrine has the potential to rob salvation or cause dangerous deception. Yet God keeps telling me, if my motive isn't birthed by Love and Love alone for that person to be helped, then I should shut my computer off and go off-line again. Whatever it takes, we have to stay together with no regrets.
I see you feel that way too and so do most here.
We're in GOOD company here.
My husband asked tonite if I wanted a notebook he compiled on Christology or anything like that, while he was going through his Den.
I told him, "On SI --- No way, those folks are Cool".
I really feel that with all of my heart.

SI folks are cool. I've been on a few forums or just looked at them and when you see folks arguing over the Trinity or Deity of Christ and a whole host of basic doctrines being torn to shreads, that's when you really know we're in a safe place here. It's a pleasure to come here to grow and not to fight over essential doctrines or blatant heresies. Praise God!
We're ONE BODY. Ha, I love saying that too.

Bless you TJ & thanks for being our brother.

 2007/7/20 22:57









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Brother Paul, that verse wouldn't leave me since this conversation started, even during dinner earlier. I've read so many books about "dying to self" and of course that verse is in all of them, but I figured, "well, I'm not innocent - Jesus was the only innocent One." when I read Compliments post.

We do need to be jealous over His Word without question, I just feel in my case, the human element factored in this time, as I said earlier.

You are right of course.

 2007/7/20 23:02





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