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If scientific method doesn't discover natural truths, jets shouldn't be flying, kids with leukemia shouldn't be surviving, and I should never have downloaded and heard the Mp3 sermon by A.W. Tozer... and been converted to the cause of Christ.

If Geology is wrong, geologists shouldn't be so darn good at finding the gold and oil - not to mention dinosaur fossils.

If medicine is wrong, doctors shouldn't know the difference between a sprain and a break.

Turn on the light, boot up the computer, get on the internet, visit the online travel agency, book a vacation, drive to the airport (the kids watch a DVD movie on the T.V. screen hanging from the roof), fly halfway across the States in two hours, drive to the "Creation Museum" and learn how Noah took two tyrannesaurus rex' on the Ark...

Isn't it hypocritical to use all the amnemities of modern science - medicine, travel, telecommunications, architecture, botany, biology, chemistry, physics - and yet dispense of two parts, the age of the earth and evolution because they conflict with the creation story?

If the entire scientific community is under some sort of mass deception, should we Christians be flying in the planes, or taking the medicines, or downloading the Mp3s designed by them? If scientific theory is fundamentally flawed, these things shouldn't be safe at all... or even work, right?

The Theory of "Occam's Razor" states, "The simplest explanation tends to be the right one."

"The truth shall set you free."

Bro Corey

Whatever makes you think I'm against scientific method????? :-?

In fact it's the opposite. My disbelief in Evolution is BECAUSE of using scientific method to discover that Evolution is based on totally [i][u]un[/u][/i]scientific assumptions!

While I was brainwashed I couldn't even understand that, so don't really expect you to - ('sigh!') but it's true all the same.

Your comments (above) are basically ridiculous, so wide of the mark that I can't believe how you can possibly imagine they support your argument in any way.

NONE of the above discoveries and inventions have anything to do with belief, or otherwise, in Evolution!

All the scientific discoveries, and the fruits of them that you mention above, were not discovered through evolution but through proper research and experiment. Many scientists who don't believe in Evolution have made great discoveries and advances in science. Louis Pasteur for example, disproved the idea of "spontaneous generation" (Evolutionary philosophy still clings to that false belief). Or in recent times, the man who invented the basis for modern MRI imaging, that is so useful in medicine today is apparently a creationist. (Do you want me to send you a list of some others - it's rather a long list!)

Maybe if you ever need that kind of scan you ought to refuse to have it? ...That suggestion is [i]at least[/i] as ridiculous as yours that it's
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"hypocritical to use all the amnemities of modern science - medicine, travel, telecommunications, architecture, botany, biology, chemistry, physics - and yet dispense of two parts, the age of the earth and evolution because they conflict with the creation story"

You don't seem to understand that there is a difference between proper scientific research and method, which produces inventions such as you mentioned, and unprovable speculation, and wooly thinking about origins of the universe, which often flies in the face of, or misinterprets, the evidence.

As I quoted from Romans, "professing themselves wise they became fools"

Also the Psalm, "the fool says in his heart that there is no God"

Bro Corey, what have you, a son of God, through new birth, to do with Godless philosophies that are basically also anti-science?

"Therefore come out from among them and be separate, and touch not the unclean thing..."

A thing that has nothing to do with REAL science.

You quoted at the end of your post: "The Theory of "Occam's Razor" states, "The simplest explanation tends to be the right one."

"The truth shall set you free."

Let the Lord rid your heart and mind of this horrible false philosophy, so you will be free to do as your signature says (1Corinthians 2:14) and rightly discern the things of God; being restored again to a childlike, simple faith in His Word.

Love in Him

Jeannette

 2007/6/17 18:29
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For just two weeks only you can listen to an idiosyncratic application of the days of creation at The Days of Creation which was designed as a series of morning bible meditations for a local Christian radio station.


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If the entire scientific community is under some sort of mass deception,



I John 5:19 states that the whole world, including scientists are under the power of the wicked one. If I believe that scripture then yes definitely they are under mass deception.

Archeology, Geology, etc. as far as Origin based fields of study are concerned are called science, but shouldn't be classified as a science by their very nature. Now this is Origin (where we all came from) science. By it's very nature you have to come to this field with a presupposition. You can't put the past in a lab. Even fossils don't exist in the past.

There is every reason to believe that the Bible is correct, and men are correct to believe that the world was created in 6 literal days thousands of years ago. Very level-headed men in the fields of science believe this.

Have you ever checked out this site?:

[url=http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp]Answers In Genesis[/url]


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