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simonb
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 Andrew Wommack

Hi folks,
Do any of you guys know of Andrew Wommmack?
If so what do you think?

 2007/4/30 7:05Profile
Spitfire
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 Re: Andrew Wommack

Hi Simon. I know of Andrew Wommack. I have dozens of his messages on video. What do I think? Well, he is someone who would be classified as a health & wealth or prosperity gospel kind of guy. But...let me say that I've never seen anyone who believes what he's saying as much as Andrew Wommack and he definitely has made me think long and hard about who I am in Christ.

I often meditate on that scripture which says, "if you have faith the size of a mustard seed you could say to this mountain 'move', and it would be cast into the sea. Nothing would be impossible to you." I tell you, that line, "nothing would be impossible to you", really gets me. I feel so defeated most of the time, but there have been a few times that I just got mad at the devil and unloaded on him and, man! Did I ever see some mountains move!

I don't think we've even scratched the surface of believing. I think alot about this planet called Earth that we live on and how God created it for us. Have you ever thought that there is never any more wealth available to anyone than there was at the beginning of time? It just changes hands down through the ages. God provided us with every good thing we could possibly need for life and godliness and he is never at a loss for resources. He knows where every hidden treasure lies. Just think, Peter got a coin out of a fish's mouth! 2+2 does not equal 4 with God. And Jesus never asked the question, "do we have enough money for that!?" He walked through this earth, as Art Katz would say, "like water off a duck's back." I love to think about that. I want to be like Him. Love, Dian.


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"O Lord God Almighty, not the God of the philosophers and the wise but the God of the prophets and apostles; and better than all, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, May I express thee unblamed? They that know thee not may call upon thee as other than thou art, and so worship not thee, but a creature of their own fancy; therefore enlighten our minds that we may know thee as thou art, so that we may perfectly love thee and rightly worship thee" Prayer by A.W. Tozer

 2007/4/30 16:21Profile
philologos
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 Re: Andrew Wommack

I didn't know the name so I looked up his website. I am not impressed. I read his article on 'Faith for Healing is based on knowledge' and disagree with him on most of it. It includes sections entitled... God has already placed His healing power within us, and it is now under our authority. It isnt up to God to determine who receives healing; its up to us!

It's never God's will for us to be sick; He wants every person healed every time.

These verses reveal that physical healing is a part of the atonement of Christ.
I think people who propogate this kind of stuff are dangerous and I steer clear of them.


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Ron B
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"Love perfecteth what it begins;

Thy power doth save me from my sins;

Thy grace upholdeth me.

This life of trust, how glad, how sweet;

My need and Thy great fulness meet,

And I have all in Thee.

Jean Sophia Pigott (1845-1882)

 2007/4/30 17:44Profile
BenBrockway
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Yeah, I agree with philologos. I used to go to the church he attends and have actually listened to some of his radio programs and thought they were good. He does have some good messages. I got word of him being a health and wealth guy when I was looking into possibly going to the bible college he heads up, and that turned me off right away. He does have some questionable theology and thoughts on Scripture.

 2007/4/30 17:53Profile
vico
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 Re: Andrew Wommack

AAAAAHHHHH!!!!

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If so what do you think?



I try not to think about that. ;-)

Man, I'm sure the guy loves God, but a lot of people are falling for this health, wealth, and prosperity gospel. This is definitely dangerous stuff.


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might now begin to glow.
Burn up the dross of base desire,
and make the mountains flow.

Oh Thou, who at Pentecost did fall,
do Thou my sins consume.
Holy Ghost, on Thee I call,
Spirit of burning, Come.
~ Charles Wesley

"...the only possible way that Jesus Christ will get glory out of a life that He’s redeemed with His precious blood, is when He can fill that life with His presence and live through it his own life." ~ Paris Reidhead

 2007/4/30 18:07Profile
MikeH
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 Re:

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Spitfire wrote:
I often meditate on that scripture which says, "if you have faith the size of a mustard seed you could say to this mountain 'move', and it would be cast into the sea. Nothing would be impossible to you."

Just remind me, how many mountains was it that Jesus cast into the sea? :-?

Mike

 2007/5/1 4:54Profile
Spitfire
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 Re: What?!

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Just remind me, how many mountains was it that Jesus cast into the sea?



I can't believe you asked this question! Are you kidding? His whole ministry was moving mountains, man! Would you not consider death a mountain? This guy conquered death, hell, and the grave! You can't be serious! What do you mean by such a question? I really want to know what you mean by that. Thanks, Dian.


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"O Lord God Almighty, not the God of the philosophers and the wise but the God of the prophets and apostles; and better than all, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, May I express thee unblamed? They that know thee not may call upon thee as other than thou art, and so worship not thee, but a creature of their own fancy; therefore enlighten our minds that we may know thee as thou art, so that we may perfectly love thee and rightly worship thee" Prayer by A.W. Tozer

 2007/5/1 6:04Profile
Spitfire
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 Re: This is the very thing

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Just remind me, how many mountains was it that Jesus cast into the sea?



This right here! This is the very thing which makes me despair of life, folks! This guys attitude.

There is such a mixture of dung, (watching my tongue for the sake of Enid), in the church that I can hardly take it.

I'm beginning to wonder if there is anyone we can trust. I've begun to ask the Lord if there is anyone who knows him that lives near me, cause I want to meet them.

Everywhere I go I find a little bit of truth and a whole lot of dung. It makes me despair! It makes me groan like an animal.

I'm quite certain I don't know God, but I'd like to. I know when I hear something that is [i]not[/i] from God and it's making me ill. Thanks, Dian.


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"O Lord God Almighty, not the God of the philosophers and the wise but the God of the prophets and apostles; and better than all, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, May I express thee unblamed? They that know thee not may call upon thee as other than thou art, and so worship not thee, but a creature of their own fancy; therefore enlighten our minds that we may know thee as thou art, so that we may perfectly love thee and rightly worship thee" Prayer by A.W. Tozer

 2007/5/1 6:14Profile
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Matt. 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into [u]an high mountain[/u] apart,

Matt. 17:9 And as they came down from [u]the mountain[/u], Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

Matt. 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto [u]this mountain[/u], Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. ...was not a metaphorical mountain.
This was not a metaphorical mountain. The most likely candidate is [url=http://www.gemsinisrael.com/e_article000096511.htm]Tabor.[/url]


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Ron B
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"Love perfecteth what it begins;

Thy power doth save me from my sins;

Thy grace upholdeth me.

This life of trust, how glad, how sweet;

My need and Thy great fulness meet,

And I have all in Thee.

Jean Sophia Pigott (1845-1882)

 2007/5/1 6:21Profile









 Re:

Maybe there are two things in this thread. One is that extreme prosperity teaching is wrong, often presumptuous, and leads to disillusionment if healing etc doesn't happen in spite of "having faith" (which isn't usually faith in God at all, just faith in faith).

The other is that lacking faith "to move mountains" is wrong too. Diane was challenged because of the latter (as I often am too). The Lord can speak even through someone who preaches falsely, or through a dumb beast (example, Balaam and his donkey in that order!)

The point maybe is what is the Lord saying to us as individuals, at this moment in time?

Dian, you certainly don't lack faith, as I have seen in your contributions to the forum. But the greatest of God's servants can experience times of uncertainty, self-doubt and discouragement.

Look at Jeremiah and Elijah when they were "down" and be reassured - they were no greater than you and I, just as vulnerable and dependent on the grace of God. But they were truer prophets than those who preached a constantly upbeat, "in the victory - health wealth and prosperity for all" brigade.

In His love

Jeannette

 2007/5/1 6:36





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