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jordanamo
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This list was NOT written by any "Communists"-- it appears to be apart of a larger list presented by a strong anti-communist Representative... that came from a book, which possibly (probably) drew from another somewhat 'infamous' list, which had 10 'goals' that these seem to draw from.

Completely and utterly spurious, has no factual basis. It is not something the Communists apparently ever wrote or sent out.

In summary: This is a ridiculous, if laughable, list. That, while you may think to be "prophetic" even if its fake, is nothing more than right-wing propaganda to make you afraid that somehow the "Commies" are still around, hidden in the Left, etc. Ridiculous. The reason social norms have been laxed, etc., and that homosexuality is more apparent is due to sin, and not due to any Communist conspiracy like this.

http://www.snopes.com/language/document/commrule.htm

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

BTW, The fact that this was "read" into the CR doesn't mean much, you can basically read anything into the CR with consent/permission.

Jordan

 2007/4/18 15:53Profile
Talkn2u
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eye opening, for sure.
As the Church of Jesus Christ, not being stymied by such a report, we see that as a call to prayer.

 2007/4/18 15:54Profile
ChrisJD
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Hi everyone.


I took a few minutes to look into this list and found a link which attributes it to a book called
"The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen. The link says this list, which supposedly appears in the book, is what was read into the Congressional record.

I found an article about the author, which mentions the book, at wikipedia. Here is the link for that [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleon_Skousen]wikipedia article[/url]


For myself, if the author was indeed a practicing Mormon, it would be enough to make me disinterested, or at least extra cautious in examining these claims.


Chris


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Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2007/4/18 16:45Profile
BenBrockway
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enid wrote:
I don't see how Zworykin is any different from a drug pusher.



I think that this is stretching things a bit Enid. Remember that he regrets inventing the tv years after he invented it. The key is that he invented it. He never knew what the tv would show today, but he saw what his invention had become, and he didn't want it to become what it had.
Saying that Zworykin is no different than a drug pusher is like saying George Eastmann (inventor of the camera) is no different than a pornography producer.

 2007/4/18 18:09Profile
Compton
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It is not something the Communists apparently ever wrote or sent out.



So what you're saying Jordan, is that the Democrats didn't plagiarize the list afterall. That's a relief!

(Just kidding...)

MC


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Mike Compton

 2007/4/18 18:17Profile
repentcanada
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no TV!

 2007/4/18 19:28Profile
vico
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"You won't go to Heaven because you got rid of a TV, you won't go to Hell because you have one. It's a case of your intimacy with God."

~Leonard Ravenhill

 2007/4/18 19:45Profile









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Compton, i have great respect for you here... my brother, the main reason i abandoned christiansunite was because i hated the slander against a single party, in all reality against any and all(this being the democrats) when both of them (though i believe there might be individuals that are represented in both parties with christian values) have completely devilish agendas. so, though it might be in cynicsm and sarcasm that you do comment, i just don't find that appealing? what do you think my brother? can i affirm also that i love you again (just so that you know i say this with a humble and loving heart) thanks

by the way, in order for capitalism to work, that also has to directly contradict the ordinances of God, though not as blatantly as Communism did(which it's ideologies for the [b]most parts was palatable[/b], except when it came to action, the sinful nature couldn't must the power to do the right action) again, i said some, not all the ideology
sam

 2007/4/18 22:19
Compton
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what do you think my brother?



Well, I think you are a good brother to give correction so graciously. I was being abit teasing there. Forgive me.

I'm not really a moonbat for any political party...but now and then I do get ornery. (I usually come to regret it.)

Thanks.

MC


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Mike Compton

 2007/4/18 23:03Profile
crsschk
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 Re: Ideology

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Completely and utterly spurious, has no factual basis. It is not something the Communists apparently ever wrote or sent out.

In summary: This is a ridiculous, if laughable, list. That, while you may think to be "prophetic" even if its fake, is nothing more than right-wing propaganda to make you afraid that somehow the "Commies" are still around, hidden in the Left, etc. Ridiculous. The reason social norms have been laxed, etc., and that homosexuality is more apparent is due to sin, and not due to any Communist conspiracy like this.



Jordan,

Can well appreciate getting the facts straight and would be the first to be very wary about conspiracy theories, especially amongst Christians who are often taken away, carried away with matters.

But I would challenge your comments about this being ridiculous. Setting aside the intent of the list, to read it back-wards or just at face value, pretty exacting regardless.

This ideology can go by many names and certainly has morphed into society, at the root it is all 'God-less'. Here is some perspective to consider;


[url=http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16110&forum=40]Tortured for Christ ~ Out takes[/url]


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