I feel this message is also for "Many" of the saints. We get too busy for God and our time with Him is very little. Truely about death to a relationship that the business can cause and Jesus says: Look here! "I stand at the door and knock - If you hear Me calling and open the door - I will - come in and we will share a meal as friends. (relationship) It can't get any better than that. The trick of the enemy is to keep us to busy - to occupied with worldly things - Time to be like Mary and sit at His feet. May we heed His call - Press In and put our focus on Christ. God Bless, Lynn
This merchandising is called "cultural relevancy'...I wonder if we were trying to attract a tribe of cannabilistic headhunters to church how culturally relevant we could allow ourselves to become.
I would love to know of a better way
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I just finished reading Busy, strong and without God. Wow, how accurate. Thankyou again for this wonderful message, as it brought back memories of when my best times with the Lord were alone at home in worship and prayer. Yes agree there is something amiss in some Churches. I am reminded Of John 2 v16 when Jesus arrived in the Temple and to those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!" The dove represents the Holy Spirit, and you cannot put a price on Him or market Him He is not for sale, He is God's gift to us and to quide us, comfort us and restrain and teach us. My prayer would be to see Christ lifted up and God's will be done in the Church for His Glory. God bless.
"The Apostle James wrote this 2000 years ago and it is a fresh word for our generation may we take heed to it: Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned into mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. Surely also the older prophet word given by Joel needs to taken heed to also: Let the priests, the ministers of the Lord, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O Lord, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?
Stirring word brother Greg, thank you."Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He shall lift you up." This is what I need my dear brother: "That He shall lift me up." My sin is ever before me and I have sinned against the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers, I have sinned against Him alone and done evil in His sight. Oh, that He would break me and bring me to the end of myself so that nothing remains of me, but only Christ living in me and revealed in me.May the Lamb who was slain receive the reward of His suffering.KM
I had hard time to talk to youth pastor in the church who told me that God has led him to have a pool party for the teenagers every week in the summer and throwing halloween party to gather more youngsters. And I am talking about the church and a denomination who boasts so much on being sound in doctrines.I was so heart broken and cried out before God to open the eyes of this youth pastor. I asked him if he has ever read Leonard Ravenhill or A W Tozer for their lamentations over the carnality in the church and he told me that I am going into circles....!I stopped sending my children to youth ministry where pastor knows nothing but pool party as a fellowship. We started teaching our children daily for about half hour before they go to bed.I fully agree that we are living in a time where we need to be very alert sending our children to youth ministry. Not only the mega churches but the many of the churches who claim to be biblical also are drifting away....May God have mercy upon us.Sherebyah
The N.American Church, fighting for so many years against the world, holding on to the Word of God,intil the last days when the N.American Church thinking they are winning the battle, letting their guard down, the world tricking her that its running away acting like they gave up leaving this well made horse(full of worldly things inside this horse). American Church, taking the horse inside their property, not knowing how dangerous it is. Not knowing that the world is planning to destroy the Church secretly and it does. How? Why? Because the American Church had taking the worldly mixing it with the godly, thinking, its ok, its harmless, but to blind that the world had already conquered her. But theyre still a group that left from her, knowing that it was a bad idea to take this horse. And now had joined the true Church, with Christ our Bridegroom. Protecting us and warning us about these things. Still holding on to the Word of God!God Bless DavidC
Amen David. I thought of these verses as I read your post: "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." May this testimony be a reality in our life: "But God forbid that I should glory, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world." "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine."KM
my brother Greg, i would say "that is a Good Word" , but even to say as such seems like just a religious platitude....its a NEEDED Word.....but in its forthtelling, its not "good"....not a "good" diagnosis.....a true one....so let me say this, That is a NEEDED DIAGNOSIS for the Body this very day.i responded to something you posted about the "narcissitic" generation, and i believe i wrote about "weeping between the porch and the altar"....and then i read this conclusion you wrote:
Surely also the older prophet word given by Joel needs to taken heed to also: Let the priests, the ministers of the Lord, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O Lord, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?
Oh Church of God to our knees! J. Hudson Taylors advice to his missionaries was: "You must go forward on your knees." William Cowper said "Satan trembles when he sees the weakest saint upon his knees." The Church need to be found on its knees in our day, may we be found there when God comes.
You are so right brother David......much prayer, fasting, weeping and agonizing is needed. May God raise the army of praying men and women to weep between porch and the altar.In ChristSherebyah