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ZekeO
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 Re: Huh

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PreachParsly wrote:
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Yes, but I think the problem is that you may be dating the mosaic law as only coming into affect at that time, those laws are eternally relevant.



Then what does this mean?

Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

Gal 3:19 Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was [b]added[/b] because of transgressions, [b]till[/b] the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

I have lost you! I don't so the contention, please explain?

rgds,


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Zeke Oosthuis

 2006/12/31 4:47Profile
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So I would say that the Romans passage is preconversion work of the law, and the Hebrews passage is postconversion work of the law, both in the heart of man.



You believe that the conscience and the laws written on their heart are the same thing?


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Josh Parsley

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I have lost you! I don't so the contention, please explain?



Those verses I quoted tell that the Mosaic law was only during the Old Covenant. So, the Mosaic law can't be eternal. Are there 'laws' that spread over all dispensations? Sure, but is it equal with the Mosaic law?


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Josh Parsley

 2006/12/31 14:27Profile
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Thanks for the post Ron. I will do some thinking and see what I think. :-D



I found out that I thought! :-D I agree completely with it. Thanks Ron!


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Josh Parsley

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I found out that I thought! I agree completely with it. Thanks Ron!



Don't thank me, thank Mr. Madsen, actually he may no longer be with us so just thank the Lord! :-D

The quote that I posted is from Poul Madsen who wrote a Danish commentary on the book of Romans, extracts from that commentary were written in English and published across several editions of the bi-monthly magazine titled Toward The Mark. The first part can be found online at the following link...[url=http://www.oscar51.net/ttm/ttm06-1.html#13]Chapter by Chapter Through Romans[/url]

In Christ,

Ron


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Ron Halverson

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"You believe that the conscience and the laws written on their heart are the same thing?"

Not exactly, but pretty close and very closely related. The law is God's standard. The conscience is man's God-given knowledge of right and wrong. The man's conscience recognizes (bears witness) that there is a standard in all mankind; some things are clearly good, some clearly evil. It is the conscience that understands the law. The conscience is internal, and the law is external. So the conscience recognizes the external law, and has the law's work (the working conscience) written into it.

While the heart and the conscience have some differences, they are inseperable.


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