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MSeaman
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 My new favorite Christmas song.

The group Go Fish has a new Christmas album out called "Snow". There is a song on it called "It's the Cross."

The Lyrics are as follows:

It's not just about the manger where the baby laid,
It's not all about the angels who sang for Him that day,
It's not just about the shepherds or the bright and shining star,
It's all about the wisemen that traveled from afar.

It's about the Cross,
It's about my sin,
It's about how Jesus came to people once, so that we could be born again.
It's about the stone, that was rolled away, so that you and I could have real life some day.
It's about the Cross.

It's not just about the presents underneath the tree,
It's not all about the feeling that the season brings to me.
It's just about the coming home to be with those you love,
It's not all about the beauty in the snow I'm dreaming of.

It's about the Cross,
It's about my sin,
It's about how Jesus came to people once, so that we could be born again.
It's about the stone, that was rolled away, so that you and I could have real life some day.
It's about the Cross.

The beginnng of the story is wonderful and great
but its the ending that can save you
and that's why we celebrate.

It's about the Cross,
It's about my sin,
It's about how Jesus came to people once, so that we could be born again.
It's about God's Love, nailed to a tree
It's about how every drop of Blood that flowed from Him when it should have been me.
It's about the stone, that was rolled away, so that you and I could have real life some day.
It's about the Cross.

Have you ever heard a modern song with a better Gospel message than that? I haven't, so if you have, please direct me to it.

If you click on my webpage below, a video to go with the song is on the right hand side and you can watch it. The video was put together by a 17 year old named David McMillan III.


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Melissa

 2006/12/19 11:31Profile
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 Re: My new favorite Christmas song.

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its not all about the angels who sang for Him that day



I like what Ravenhill said in "Either Pentecost or Holocaust": nowhere in the Scriptures do we ever read of angels "singing" - angels shout. I suspect our little milktoast concept of singing angelic choirs and harps and wings and halos is not Biblically accurate.

If you ever saw an angel, you would be utterly terrified and fall on your face in mortal fear, just like if God the Holy Ghost really showed up at your church meeting.


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Paul Frederick West

 2006/12/19 11:42Profile
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 Re: My new favorite Christmas song.

That's very encouraging! Thanks for sharing.


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Laura

 2006/12/19 12:29Profile
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PaulWest wrote:
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its not all about the angels who sang for Him that day



I like what Ravenhill said in "Either Pentecost or Holocaust": nowhere in the Scriptures do we ever read of angels "singing" - angels shout. I suspect our little milktoast concept of singing angelic choirs and harps and wings and halos is not Biblically accurate.

If you ever saw an angel, you would be utterly terrified and fall on your face in mortal fear, just like if God the Holy Ghost really showed up at your church meeting.



if you want to be technical, Brother... :)

Luke 2: 9-15 says

"9And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

10And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

12And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

13And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

14Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

15And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us."

The host of Heaven were speaking, not singing. The point of the song is, that without the Cross, there would have been no need for Christ's birth.

A little different idea about Christmas compared to "Here comes Santa Claus..."


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Melissa

 2006/12/19 14:37Profile
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Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.



God rest ye merry gentlemen,
let nothing you dismay,
Remember Christ our Saviour
was born on Christmas day
To save us all from Satan's power
when we had gone astray

O tidings of comfort and joy!

 2006/12/19 14:46Profile
PaulWest
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Hey Melissa, you mentioned the "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" song. Have you ever read this:

"You better watch out. You better not cry. You better not pout. I'm telling you why; Santa Claus is coming to town. He's making a list and he's checking it twice; gonna find out whose naughty and nice. Santa Claus is coming to town. He sees you when you're sleeping; he knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sakes. You better watch out. You better not cry. You better not pout. I'm telling you why; Santa Claus is coming to town."

Now does that threaten you? That is a very threatening poem. That is intended to scare children. Now listen, if you look at the letters of Santa, you will see that Satan is hidden in Santa. When we teach a child to sing this song, we are teaching him a false theology. We are teaching him a false set of doctrine. Let me see if I can explain it to you.

First, that song teaches that Santa is a transcendent being. He lives on a higher plane. He lives on another level. He transcends time and space. He has powers equal to whom? God! Not only that, he knows everything. He's omniscient. "He knows when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake. He knows when you're naughty. He knows when you're nice." He knows everything.

Not only that, he's everywhere. "He sees you when you're sleeping." He's not only omniscient, he's omnipresent. And he is watching to see whether you have been good or bad. And not only that, but he bestows favors. Now on what basis does Santa give his favors? What must I do to receive good things from this transcendent being, called Santa. Well it is very simple, I have to be what? Good. I can "earn" Santa's favor. If I am good, Santa will give me gifts. After all, he's making a list and he is checking it twice to make sure that we've been either naughty of nice. And on the basis on how we've been, he'll deal with us.

And if I'm not nice and good, I won't get any gifts. So I better be good for goodness sake, not to mention for my own sake or anybody else's sake. But do you want to know something about Santa? He may be transcendent, and he may be omniscient, and he may be omnipotent, and he may be omnipresent. He may be dispensing all of the good things, but you know what? You can't trust him. You can't trust him. You say, "What do you mean by that?"

It says, "He's checking to see if you are naughty or nice." And you better be good for goodness sake, because if you aren't good, you won't what? You won't get anything. You want to know something? That's not true. Plenty of times I haven't been good and I get something anyway. Every year I get something. And you want to know the truth of it? There are a lot of naughty people that get a lot and there are a lot of nice people that don't get anything.

Do you know what about Santa Claus? You can't trust him. He doesn't even stay true to his own word. He's blustering around and warning everybody to mind your manners and be good all the time; be nice and not naughty and good and not bad. And then you know what? When Christmas comes he caves in, and even when we have been naughty he gives us all that stuff. And sometimes he overlooks people that are nice. He really can't be trusted. His threats are meaningless and so are his promises. But that's good because it takes the sting out of him. And there is another good thing about Santa; you only have to worry about him once a year. He only shows up once and you know when it is; it's always on Dec 25th, so you can get your act together just a few days before. You say, "Well where is he the rest of the time?" Oh, he's in the North Pole. Could that be heaven in Satan's little scheme? "What's he doing?" Oh, he has all these elfs around him. "What are they doing?" Whatever he tells them.

Mostly, meaningless things like make toys. He is sort of inane isn't he? He threatens but never fulfills his threats. He promises but doesn't always fulfill his promises.

Is it any wonder that if I believe all that as a child, when I come to be an adult, I might have a hard time believing in a Transcendent God who does know everything, who is everywhere, who does have all power, who does keep his promises and his threats, and who does not save me and give me good gifts on the basis of my works but on the basis of His grace. If Santa has been my understanding of God, then I am in trouble. That's why I say, hidden in the letters of Santa is Satan.

I am glad for a God who is absolutely dependable. I can trust His promises. I can trust His threats. He is everywhere at all times and He doesn't just show up once a year. He is here all of the time. And He gives His great gift, not on the basis of our works but on the basis of His grace through faith."

- John MacArthur


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Paul Frederick West

 2006/12/19 16:59Profile
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 Re: My new favorite Christmas song.



I've thought about angels singing or not and realize that there is no place in the scripture that says they do. I've also thought of it the other way too, there is no place in the scripture that says they don't sing either.

Not long ago a man on the radio was making a point that angels don't sing in the scripture. He said something to the effect that men sing only because they have a fallen nature and that angels of God don't sing. He said that the flats in music were because of the fallen nature. One day I thought about this again and realized that the criteria that he was using against angels singing could be used against his idea. It just isn't in the scripture as he described.

There are some very good Christian songs that speak of angels singing. So, I don't know if angels sing or not. I do think that it is foolishness to make points that can't be proved by scripture. Maybe I am wrong about there being a scripture that says angels don't sing but, I sure can't remember any.


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Gary Eckenroth

 2006/12/20 0:59Profile
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Hey Brother Paul,
I haven't read that but thank you for sharing, I will be passing this around to some people. We don't do the Santa thing at our house. Our children have been taught that we are to celebrate the birth of our Savior on Christmas, no other reason. I've told my son since he was a year old there is no santa.He told me yesterday that everyone in his kindergarten class believes in Santa, except him. I told him that was fine if their parents wanted to tell them that story, but we know that Christmas is about Jesus coming to earth to save us from our sins.

Thanks for sharing the MacArthur piece, it is a great one. I really enjoy his Biblical views.

Have a Merry Christmas!


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