bartle wrote:Quote:Have you ever heard him speak? noooooo, have you?
Have you ever heard him speak?
well after listening and reading some, i agree... he is not christian....
I don't believe the man is a Christian, period.
he is not christian
thanks for posting those articles, I'm reading the first one, trying very hard to understand what they are saying.I like Mark Driscoll and understood what he said......and I know "pantheism"...means "many gods", which to this Jewish follower of Jesus is an anathema.....but lemme read on.I hope the other lads knew I was ribbing about the "burning at the stake" thingy.thanks for the post.bartle
bartle wrote: But I got a small heart tug though, I really don't know hardly anything about him at all, but Orm knows, so I'll trust him and go along with the mob, its the safe thing to do.
I don't know if I am the mob or the outcast half the time...For what it's worth Bartle, awhile back I left a post with my own honest thoughts on the subject. What I shared then was not a hasty reaction against anyone...I was sincerely attracted to the Emergent church for several valid reasons but in the end I could not fully 'buy-in.' Although I have some empathy for their critique of modern evangelicals, the emergent theological and philosophical solutions to the problems in the modern church are simply too indifferent to scripture for me to swallow.The Emergent Christians like McClaren accuse traditional evangelicals of being too fixated on doctrine. He casts evangelicals as as being too suppositional or merely parroting empty 'positionalism' and not being honest and contemplative enough for real people searching for God in the 21st century. Vital spiritual experience is said to be more important then correct theology. Yet, inspite of the arguments and divisions sparked from denominational differences over theology, theology does ultimately matter. The Good News is in fact theological...God himself is certainly beyond the boxes of any one culture, but still His condescending revelation to man is faithfully contained in the primitive confines of our written language...as such the post-modern emphasis on subjective experience with God over an objective and rational knowledge of scripture can lead a person away from a biblical understanding of God. This doesn't mean that I fear or despise Brian McClaren. In fact I'm confident he is a well meaning guy. In spite of my disagreements with his conclusions, I think he has raised some excellent concerns about some modern trends in the church, and I certainly don't want to burn him at the stake ;-) Anyways here is my older post on [url=http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7695&forum=36#58509]my own look at the emergent church[/url]Blessings brother,MC
The way things are looking, the mob will soon be coming after us
I certainly don't want to burn him at the stake
I thought thats what s'posed to done with them hereticks, isnt that what they did in the old days