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MSeaman
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 Can Christians be haunted?

I haven't. but I have family members who claimed to have seen ghost of deceased family members and others....they are not Christians. they always say to me, "I know you don't believe it but whatever."

I am just wondering if Christians can be haunted? I don't believe in ghosts. I do believe in demons and evil spirits though.

I'm just looking for input on a subject that is usually overlooked or ignored.

Thanks for you help. :-)


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Melissa

 2006/7/12 10:38Profile









 Re: Have you ever been haunted?

I do not believe that ghosts exist in the sense that many people think they have seen ghosts of dead family members and so on. The fact is, once you have died, you either go to heaven or to hell, and once you are there you cannot go back.

I do, however, think that satanic spirits and demons can use ghosts for their own advantage. They can make people see things that are not really there.

Think about it, if an unbeliever sees something like a ghost or a UFO, then they will spend all of their time trying to find out whether they are real or not, and will spend their entire lives trying to determine what a ghost or UFO is. This is so dangerous because they will be spending their time doing things other than searching for Christ.

Satan really doesn't care what you are doing, as long as you aren't searching for Christ or somehow getting involved in the Truth. Roger Carswell once said at our church, that you can only be in one of two camps: the devil's camp, or the Lord's camp.

The fact is, even if you are sitting on the fence you are still on satan's side, because he cares not what you do with your life, as long as you fail to find God.

 2006/7/12 11:03
MSeaman
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but can Christians be haunted in this way? I have never had this experience, but I just figured it was because I was covered by Jesus' blood, and the Holy Spirit. Also, it isn't something I would desire to experience. I guess that is where my confusion starts.


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Melissa

 2006/7/12 11:07Profile
PreachParsly
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If a Christian is seeing demonic spirits (what some would call ghosts), the Christian needs to tell it to leave.

Tell it the only spirit you want manifesting around here is the Holy Spirit.


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Josh Parsley

 2006/7/12 15:31Profile
letsgetbusy
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 Re: Can Christians be haunted?

Don't know anything about this website, just pasted this story about Wigglesworth than I had heard before:

http://www.jesusvisions.org/chapt13.shtml

"English Evangelist Smith Wigglesworth was fearless as he prayed for the sick and performed apostolic exploits for the Lord. Wigglesworth’s grandson, Leslie, personally related an incident to me. One night Smith Wigglesworth was sleeping in a draughty room during a thunderstorm. The windows rattled, the lights flickered, and suddenly Wigglesworth saw a vision of Satan himself standing at the foot of his bed! But Wigglesworth was not in the least bit disturbed. Because he possessed such a revelation of personal safety under the watch-care of the Good Shepherd, and because he understood the power of the Name of Jesus, Wigglesworth just dismissed the devil. He said, “Oh, it’s only you!” He turned over in his bed and fell into a deep slumber!"


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Hal Bachman

 2006/7/12 15:56Profile









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We can tell the demons/spirits/ghosts to leave, but remember this story?

Acts 19:13-16 - 'Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the LORD Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so. And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.'

What amazes me is the fact that the demon knows Paul! Paul is known in hell, because he had such great faith, belief and trust. How I long to be know in hell! That would mean I truly love God, truly follow him, pray so much that it gives Satan a headache, spend so much time with God that Satan has not an inch of ground in my life, have such pure motives that I truly want God to take all the glory, so much that I care not about the world and what it says, and what it thinks of me.

Lord, I am fed up with this watered down, half-hearted Christianity that I take part in every day! I pray that you would bless me with a vision of hell and a vision of eternity, so that I care about nothing more than doing what will stand in heaven, doing things that will save others from the fires of hell, doing things all for Your glory and Your's alone!

Amen.

 2006/7/13 5:09
letsgetbusy
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Amen to that!


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Hal Bachman

 2006/7/13 15:48Profile
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I pray that you would bless me with a vision of hell and a vision of eternity



Careful what you pray for, dear brother. God may take you at your word. There's pain in His heart. So much pain that your entire life will be wrecked if you catch but a single glimpse. I thought at one time I could handle it, but I couldn't. I had heard sermons by the old school holiness preachers, and asked God to put the burden in my heart. I soon found out that the personal Gethsemane is a very fearful thing. If you should see hell and should God kindle the fires of eternity to blaze in your eyes, you'll be utterly rejected by both the world and the church, and be sick in your spirit night and day. I can't possibly describe this, and I am not exaggerating at all. I can't stress rejection enough, brother. And if that isn't bad enough, Satan will launch a full-out assault that will spin your head. Can you handle the rejection? Where the only One you can receive comfort in is God? This is a terrifying thing.

Even some people reading this will take offense. I am in no way trying to dissuade you. I am being as loving as I know to be, by warning you what to expect. Nobody warned me, and that's partly why I was so devastated and discouraged (not to mention my own foolhardy zeal and spiritual immaturity). I am sharing my heart with you. What I tell you is 100% true. Ask any preacher, any man, any woman who has met God in this excruciating place. Most preacher's tell you to seek God's Face, but I am talking about seeking His HEART, and this is an altoghter different thing. Do you realize what you're asking for? To feel the pain God feels? To hear the millions of screams from aborted babies, their blood crying out to Him from sanitary trashbags, the daily rapes, the drug deals, every act of child porn, every murder, the shrieks of almost 150,000 souls falling into the jaws of hell daily, the cursings, the blasphemies, the profane sacrifices, the demon worship, the engulfing cults, the world-wide mockery of King Jesus Christ? The One who beholds these things has eyes as flames of fire and dwells in unapproachable light. Even the mighty Seraphims have to shield their faces and lie prostrate before His awesome blaze. And yet the innocent cries of murdered babies rise before His throne day and night as their killers blaspheme and mock His Blood. Dare you partake in the inexpressible grief of the Holy Spirit? Do you want to experience all this? Can your feeble existence handle it?

I hope so, dear brother! Press on! Wrestle, fight, and pray! Fast the flesh for a divine revelation of hell and then go out and shake the world with the burden and power of God upon you! Hallelujah!


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Paul Frederick West

 2006/7/13 16:52Profile









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Amen to that.

You're right, it will hurt. But look at life eternally; will God care if man accepted you? Will God care how many friends you had? No and no. All He will care about is how much time you spent living all out for Him and giving Him the glory He deserves.

The thing is, I feel a revival inside of me starting. One that cares not about mere man's praise, one that looks to The Almighty God. Man can say what he likes, Satan can throw at me what he likes, but I have my Lord and Saviour with me, the omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient Lord Jesus Christ! If Christ is for us, who can be against us?

It doesn't matter how man treats me, even how the church treats me, but how God sees me. Eternity is where is all begins!

I need this vision. I need to stop this watered-down gospel treatment and I need the real Gospel (capital G!). God help me and use me for His glory, no matter how hard or painful.

 2006/7/13 18:13
PaulWest
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I need this vision. I need to stop this watered-down gospel treatment and I need the real Gospel (capital G!). God help me and use me for His glory, no matter how hard or painful.



Brother, I thank God for Christians like you! Soldiers willing to go against all opposition of the world, flesh, and devil to gain a revelation of His terrible majesty. Truthfully, we have to enter into this knowledge if we are to be known in hell and plant a flag for Jesus in this wicked world. There are no shortcuts, no amount of sermons you can listen to, no books to read to gain this experience. You must enter in alone, and you must fight to enter in and fight to stay there. It's like trying to escape from an island on a raft - you have to battle and break through the opposing wake before you can reach the ocean and charter the deep waters. God is there, and so are the sharks.

But keep looking to scripture and fastening your eyes to Jesus and you'll walk upon the waters with Him. As soon as you look around at all the waves of rejection and winds of critcism, you'll begin to sink. Take it from a fellow soldier. Keep your eyes the General, and don't look anywhere else. That's what sunk me! But by the grace of God, I'm making my way back out to sea!

I'll keep you in prayer as you seek the eternal majesty of our God. On to Glory and Victory in Jesus! Hallelujah!

yours in Christ, Paul


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Paul Frederick West

 2006/7/13 18:58Profile





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