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Christinyou
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Revelation 2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Where in our first mistake in dealing with the depths of Satan's realm is our mind gives him access to be what we believe. The same is of God, and Christ and the Holy Spirit, If our mind is kept on the things of God we will be in perfect peace. He, Satan gives us thoughts and feelings of his presence and by our taking this thought captive we give him access to the realm of what we are thinking. If I believe a person is possessed of has a demon that power gives Satan permission to deal with what he wants to do and that is convince us that He has that power. If I get someone else to agree with me then where ever 2 or 3 are gathered in Satan's power and name there he is among you.

It is fascinating to see the power of Satan in the church because we are giving him access by our own minds.

A demon cannot possess anything since the Cross, unless it is given permission by the mind of the possessed. If you think you are drinking coffee with cream and sugar in it, even if it is lemon aide our mind still believes it is coffee, until we taste it we don't know the difference. Don't even think on the things of Satan, he is a defeated foe. He can only become a martyr if we give him power by our mind, then he has access to what ever we are giving him power over.

Think about it the more you keep your mind on the things of Satan the more he disrupts and takes away peace. If our minds are kept on the Lord and He can keep us in perfect peace, what happens if we keep our mind on the depths of Satan. Perfect peace? I think not, but perfect demon and satanic oppression? guaranteed.

And unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine; the rest of the members of the church in Thyatira, who have not embraced this doctrine of the Nicolaitanes published by Jezebel, &c.

As they speak; those seducers call their doctrine deep things, great mysteries revealed to them; as there are the deep things of God, 1Co 2:10, so these seducers would pretend their doctrines also were deep things: Christ calls them the devil's mysteries, deep things of Satan. Oh we can free you from demon possession. Who joins in the conflict by doing this? The ones giving the power to Him. Jesus I know and Paul I know, but who are you?

Get peoples mind on Jesus and the devil will flee. He can do nothing else, he is already defeated on the Cross.

Stay away from the depths of Satan's mysteries.
Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

This Jesus Christ did at the Cross.

Phl 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.

We are not exorcists, we only give power to Satan to oppress the one we are exorcising.

In Christ: Phillip


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Phillip

 2006/7/11 13:31Profile
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i dont think i was possessed, in that i wasnt in control of myself & would lose control,
it always seemed that when i was in a very real sense & tangible presence of the Lord it manifested as being oppossed to Gods presence being there.

though i will say i know it was in me aswel. again im only relating what happened to me,
i nearly vommited it, i felt it move from my stomach up my throat & i started to choke. this lead me to reevaluate my last 6yrs walking with God & seeking him for the answers,
which is when he set me free.
my stance is that my spirit is born again, but my mind & my body is not.
my mind ineed to renew with the word of God & bring it into line with what his word says & let it wash me.
my body i need to submit to my spirit, it is a vessal that needs to be brought under control,


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Christinyou
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What does this say? Persuaded, what is that?
i.e.-to rely (by inward certainty):--agree, assure, believe, have confidence, be (wax) conflent, make friend, obey, persuade, trust, yield.

Romans 8:38-39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Where are w persuaded? It is the mind that controls these things that Paul is saying cannot separate us from the Love of God, which is in Christ Jesus. The Love of God makes us One with Christ, the opposite is separate. If nothing can separate us, How could principalities and powers do anything to take us away from God? Nothing. In our minds we must be completely persuaded that Satan has no power over anything we are in Christ. The only power he has is the power of our minds. He is still the liar and has been from the beginning, don't be deceived any longer, as Jesus said, "Satan has nothing to do with Him". Where is Jesus right now? Christ is in you. Satan has no access unless we give him access and that is in our mind only, he cannot invade our spirit for that is the Spirit of Christ. Who is in our Soul-mind? The Holy Spirit who is in us forever, don't grieve the Holy Spirit by allowing your mind to put Satan's power in the same realm as the Holy Spirit. The war is in your mind. Ephesians 4:29-30 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Speak Christ by the Holy Spirit and all corruption must flee. Don't speak Satan's power and He has no power. Satan has no mind he can use, unless you give to him. Just like Jesus Christ needs your mind, give it to Him and He will manifest Himself in you, for you, with you, through you, and by you to other's, to free them from the slavery of the mind kept not on The Things Above. Christ in you the Hope of Glory.

In Christ: Phillip


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