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Logic
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Lets say that nature of sinners is not sin nature but a spiritualy dead nature and that is what makes them sinners.

We inherited spiritual death but we earn physical death; the wages of sin is death([b]Rom 6:23[/b]).

The spiritual death is what causes sinners to sin because they are cut of from the life of Christ.

I would like to reword the fraize "origenal sin" to "origenal death" as Stever posted [b]Romams 5:12[/b] [color=990000]Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and [b]so death passed upon all men[/b], for that all have sinned:[/color]

There is another error that people make; we are sinners only because we sin.
This is no more true than to say if we bark like a dog then we are all dogs.

A dog is a dog and therefore it barks, for he can not do anything but only bark.
Just as a sinner is a sinner therfore He sinns. the best thing a sinner can do would still be tainted by sin, for he can not do anything but only sin.

In the logic of "we are sinners only because we sin", saved people are sinners then too becaus we keep sinning. However, sinners do not go to heaven.
We are not sinners but we are new creations:
[b]2Corinth 5:17[/b] [color=990000]Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
[b]&
Gal 6:15[/b] For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.[/color]

 2006/7/18 15:10Profile
Christinyou
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Romans 5:12-14 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

"(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law."

Why did all die from Adam to Moses?

Sin entered into Adam and all his offspring when Satan became his god father, believing Satan over God.

I do believe innate sin is through Adam, and sins of the flesh are of all man.

This is why people say that you can loose your salvation, they put all sin in one basket.
Innate sin, the sin of Adam is what Christ took away at the Cross the Sin of the whole World. Sin's of the flesh must be confessed, if not, God may take the Flesh to save the soul, but not the salvation given at the Cross which cannot be revoked.

In Christ: Phillip


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