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mamaluk
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 2 Corinthians 11:4....another 'jesus'

Dear Brethren,

Any thoughts on who might these other 'jesus(es)' be in the present time?

How does one discern?

 2006/6/24 10:38Profile
hmmhmm
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 Re: 2 Corinthians 11:4....another 'jesus'

well, i would say jehovas witnesses, i would say in my country the swedich church who know blesses homosexuall marriges. I would say any gospel that is twisted to either remove some things or add some things. Just to make a person feel that they dont have to change to go to heaven. Or the gospels that say that the whole purpose is really to get material things and money, thats another jesus, or its false jesuses becus there is only one jesus. the living god, before i got so mad at this it really disturbed me, well it still does, but when u watch the futered sermon then you relise he will take care of all of these "false jesuses" at the judgement seat
they all are going to stand there!
we all are, so we better be right in what jesus we follow. Becuse the wrong one will send you to the lake of fire.

gods peace to you
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 2006/6/24 11:22Profile
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Christian,

You hit most of the obvious ones, thank you.
How about the not-so-obvious ones? Such as the high 'moral' ones and those who carry similar doctrines?

Any admonitions from the Bible?

 2006/6/24 11:30Profile
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 Re: 2 Corinthians 11:4....another 'jesus'

mamaluk wrote:

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Dear Brethren,

Any thoughts on who might these other 'jesus(es)' be in the present time?

How does one discern?

Any jesus that one would make for there own likeing, that don't line up with the truth.

The catholic church has a nother jesus.

 2006/6/24 21:22Profile
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2 Corinthians 11:4
"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."

According to this verse, this other 'jesus' would be someone who:

1. preaches another 'jesus'
2. manifests another spirit that is contrary to the Holy Spirit
3. preaches another gospel

How many of us have actually encountered one of them in our own church buildings? How many of us assume that with their seminary degrees,or fine education or references, that they must be okay?

How many of us even dare to judge these false 'jesus' that are behind our own church pulpits ,especially when we've been told by them "judge not lest ye be judge"? over and over again.

I welcome any biblical admonitions or insights over this topic, and I reckon the need the Holy Spirit's illumination at all times. But most certainly, the Holy Spirit would expect us to discern with the Bible.

thanks logic for your input,
In Christ,
mml

 2006/6/24 22:03Profile
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I feel many pentocostal church's have gone this way.

My experiences with the Church of God has not been real impressing. In fact, I think they mostly want our money.


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 2006/6/24 22:14Profile
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Like the song,"there's a sweet, sweet spirit in this place and I know that it's the spirit of the Lord."

This is another Jesus. Unless it means that the sweet spirit is the Spirit of Christ in the believer not "in this place". Without the believer there is no spirit except the spirit of satan, he is the prince or the power of the air.

Is this what you are looking for in another Jesus. I always change the song to sing, "there's a sweet, sweet Spirit in my Life and I know that it's the Spirit of the Lord."

Mar 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here [is] Christ; or, lo, [he is] there; believe [him] not:

Christ is only in the Believer, seated at the right hand of the Father with us.

In Christ: Phillip


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 2006/6/24 22:17Profile
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boombatt,

haha, thanks for your forwardness, same here! :)
I think I just hope this thread would help us to be more discerning with the Armor of God, epecially with the Sword of the Spirit in Ephesians 6 , and to be vigilant as we were warned by Peter:
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect!!

I'm not sure if I'm right, but I believe that we are living in the end times. Keen discernment is so crucial!
mml

 2006/6/24 22:24Profile
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Christinyou,

Haha, very interesting insight, never thought of it this way, indeed, you are right. The emphasis of the Holy Spirit does rest with the individual saint in Christ, rather than with any self-proclaimed 'jesus' or clergy, sweet or not!

hope i understood you right, praise God,
thank you
mml

 2006/6/24 22:28Profile
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Your got it Mamaluk, Amen.

That is one of you know who's favorite speeches before his healing services.

In Christ: Phillip


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