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IRONMAN
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IN HEAVENLY PLACES WITH JESUS

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Thanks for these challenging questions. I have never thought about the lack of faith which prevented Jesus from doing healings and miracles, because there those who present themselves for prayer for healing are demonstrating a measure of faith and openness to receive, simply by coming forward. But, it is a valid point, that Jesus Himself would not force healing and miracles upon an unwilling population. We should take this to heart in our own ministries.



i guess this would underscore the fact that even our own faith is insufficient for the lofty purposes of God. the only solution is to leave that faith on the cross with everything else and take on Christ's Faith. i think it was bro Stever or someone else who's pretty pro KJV only who said that the translations should read the Faith of Christ (which is perfect Faith) rather than faith in Christ. it seems to me that there is a big difference between the 2 with the former being the right way.

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I've not given deep thought to the difference between a healing and a miracle, but I know some people believe healing is a speeding up of a natural process, whereas a miracle requires something new to be created to complete the transformation. I'm not sure it makes much difference if the prayer of faith is being offered in the right attitude towards God. It is HE who does whatever is needed. Our faith in His faith brings me (us) to the point of asking Him.



i would add that healing would also be the reversal of a situation which would otherwise lead to death. in looking at the example bro Stever gave, his friend with cancer seemed like he was done for. i agree in that i don't think that there is a difference between healing and miracles but the spirit in which we go after these things is key. perhaps while there may not be biblical support for pleading the blood for healing, the spirit in which this work is done is key or would perhaps cover any shortfalls in what we say?

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Inasmuch as Christ had not died before He was able to give power to the disciples to heal and cast out demons, I feel there is something else at work through the Spirit, when we pray for healing. Yes, there may be a need for the confession of sin at the same time, but, I see the two as distinct, even though there may be a cause and effect sometimes.



i thought the same thing myself that the 2 are distinct and yet intimately connected. i've not seen anywhere in scripture (not to say i've read all scripture!) where the disciples or anyone else pleaded the blood of CHrist for healing. hands were laid, shadows passed over people, and handkerchiefs were passed around and people were told to get up, or be healed in His name and that was that.


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 Re: Pleading the Blood?

Interesting topic..

I remember what Ravenhill said about waking up and pleading the blood over his boys to begin their day.
The old hymn says theres power in the blood!!

I plead the blood of Jesus everyday over my family....

Wether pentocastol or not I dont know.....maybe more mystical? I know theres awesome power in His blood...so I plead it!


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(1) What does "the Blood" mean or represeant?

(2) What is "the Blood" that you are pleeding?

(3) What is the purpose of the pleading?

(4) Why does the Blood need to be pleaded?

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1) What does "the Blood" mean or represeant?




Maybe we should of asked Ravenhill the same question? ;-)

Look up the old hymnal of the Blood and see what it does.


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 Re: Scriptual Grounds for pleading The Blood

Scriptural Grounds for Pleading
the Blood of Jesus

Logic posted:

(1) What does "the Blood" mean or represeant?

(2) What is "the Blood" that you are pleeding?

(3) What is the purpose of the pleading?

(4) Why does the Blood need to be pleaded?

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Stever's response:

Scriptural grounds for Pleading the Blood:

There are some Christians and denominations that attack this form of prayer. They ask where in Scripture is there proof that we can use this kind of prayer for either protection or deliverance when we really need it. There was no evidence that the early apostles ever pled the blood to heal, to cast out demons or to get God’s basic protection on them.
I believe that there are three things contained in the Blood of Jesus – forgiveness, deliverance and protection. Most Christians only know about the first one – forgiveness. They have no idea that there are two other things available to them that will enable them to live a victorious and overcoming life in Jesus while still living down here on this earth. I will briefly discuss each of these three things.

1. Forgiveness
As Christians, we all know that there is definitely forgiveness in the Blood of Jesus. This is the basic central message of true Christianity – that God the Father sent His one and only begotten Son Jesus Christ down to our earth in the flesh to physically die on a cross in order to give us total and permanent forgiveness for all of our sins.

Without Jesus dying and shedding His blood on that cross – there would be no forgiveness and no remission of any of our sins. Here are some extremely powerful verses from Scripture specifically telling us this:
• "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." (Matthew 26:28)
• "In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace." (Ephesians 1:7)
• "But now in Christ Jesus you who were far off have been made near by the blood of Christ." (Ephesians 2:13)
• "For the life of the flesh is in the blood ... for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul." (Leviticus 17:11)

Notice the emphasis on the word "blood" in those verses. There is no question that in these verses and others in the Bible that the blood that Jesus shed on the cross, which caused His physical death, is what leads to our salvation, the forgiveness of all of our sins and entrance into heaven when we die and cross over.

2. Deliverance
Now what then are the Scriptural grounds that will give us the legal right to be able to use His Blood when taking on any attacks that may come our way? As you will see in the following testimonies – you can Plead the Blood of Jesus against specific types of attacks such as attacks from demons, any kind of physical disease or illness, any kind of addictions to drugs or alcohol, etc.

Many Christians are not aware of this second component that is in the Blood of Jesus which entitles us to be able to use His Blood to go on the offensive against any adversity that may come our way.

Something else happened that day when Jesus died on the cross for all of our sins. The Bible tells us that Jesus also defeated Satan and all of the powers of darkness that day! Here are some specific Scripture verses proving this point for you:
• "… that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage." (Hebrews 2:14)
• "He has delivered us from the power of darkness and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins." (Colossians 1:13)
• "Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it." (Colossians 2:15)
• "For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil." (1 John 3:8)
• "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death." (Revelations 12:11)

What defeated Satan and all the powers of him and his demons? The physical death of Jesus on the cross. And what did Jesus do when He died that day on the cross for us, by laying down his life for us? He shed His Blood!

That is why Pleading the Blood of Jesus works so well in real life combat situations when it really is needed to defeat attacks that come against us from the dark side.

Many Christians are not aware of this fact about the Blood of Jesus – that the blood can also be used to engage with our enemies when they do try and launch an attack against us. I believe that all of the above Scripture verses definitely tell us that the blood that Jesus shed that day on the cross has totally defeated Satan and all of his dark powers.

The only thing remaining is for Christians to realize and grab a hold of this powerful truth and not to be afraid to use when they need it – especially when demons or other evil humans attempt to come against them with any unjust actions or attacks.

Here are four more powerful verses from Scripture showing that all Christians now have God’s power and anointing at their disposal to use when they need it against the dark side:
"Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you." (Luke 10:19)

Notice in that verse we have God’s power over all the power of our enemies – not just against part of their powers. This means we have the ability to come out completely victorious in some of life's battles and struggles – but only if we learn how to use what is available to us.
"Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick." (Luke 9:1)

Notice in this verse that Jesus gives the twelve apostles power over all demons – not just some of them. If we have God’s power available to us to defeat all demons – then I believe that we also have God’s power to defeat any and all humans that may try to come against us with any type of unjust action or attack.

"... but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits." (Daniel 11:32)
"Knowing their God" means that we have spent quality time in establishing a personal intimate relationship with God. If we do that, then this verse is telling us that God will strengthen and empower us when we need His power to be able to carry out great exploits and great adventures for Him.

"For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is loyal to Him." (2 Chronicles 16:9)

This verse is telling us that God is actually looking for people that He can anoint with His power – but the implication appears to be that He really cannot find too many people who are willing to pay the price to be able to really walk with His anointing.

As you can see from the way all of the above verses are worded out, true Christianity is not a weak, wimpy or passive religion. As born-again believers, we all have the Holy Spirit literally living and dwelling on the inside of us. As a result of our bodies now becoming the temple in which He now lives in, His supernatural power is available to all of us in order to help us handle some of the storm clouds that this life can throw at us.

Learning how to properly Plead the Blood of Jesus for any deliverance or protection that you may need is just one part of your arsenal. I will be doing other articles in the future covering some of the other aspects on this part of our walk with the Lord.

3. Protection
As you will see in the next section, you can also Plead the Blood of Jesus on specific things like your body, your house, your car, your finances, etc. The goal is to Plead the Blood on those things in order to protect you before any kind of adversity should come your way.

If the above verses are showing us that we can Plead the Blood of Jesus on attacks that may have already come our way when we need God’s deliverance and/or healing power to get us out of a dire predicament – then I believe it only stands to reason that we can also go one step further with the Blood of Jesus – and that is to use it for protection before any actual attacks could come our way.

In this case – you simply Plead the Blood of Jesus on whatever you want God’s full protection on before any attacks could possibly come your way.

I believe that there is also something else in the Bible that gives us another clue that entitles us to be able to Plead the Blood for this specific purpose. In the Old Testament, God the Father had it arranged with His chosen people – the Jews – that in order for them to be able to enter into a covenant relationship with Him – they had to have some kind of "temporary covering" for their sins. Jesus had not come yet – so there was no full remission for any sins that had occurred back at that time
What God the Father had set up was the sacrifice of blemish free animals such as bulls, goats and lambs. Their blood had to be shed once per year on what was called the day of atonement. The shedding of these animals’ blood was what gave the Jewish people a "temporary covering" for their sins so as to enable them to enter into a covenant relationship with God the Father.
That is why Jesus is called the "Lamb of God." He is an extension of the lambs used by His Father in the Old Testament to give the Jewish people the temporary covering for their sins. Once Jesus had shed His own blood on the cross – there was no more need for any more animal sacrifices. His death on the cross had completed and fulfilled what His Father started in the Old Testament with the sacrifice of these animals.
Now watch this analogy. In the shedding of the lamb’s blood on the day of atonement – there was temporary forgiveness for the sins of the Jewish people. Then Jesus comes in the New Testament and the shedding of His blood now gives all believers complete and total forgiveness for all of their sins.

Now here is where I feel that something else occurred back in the Old Testament that may entitle us to be able to use the Blood of Jesus for protection. In the story of the Passover, God had sent His servant Moses to rescue the children of Israel out from underneath their bondage and captivity to the Egyptians. God had thrown ten gigantic plagues at the Pharaoh in an effort to get him to release His people from his rule.

On one of those plagues – God tells Pharaoh that He is going to allow an angel of death to come through their camp to kill all of their firstborn children. However, before God sets all of this up to occur – He tells His people to shed the blood of a blemish free lamb and to put that shed blood on the doorposts and lintels of their houses.

God tells His people that the angel of death will bypass their house if he sees this shed blood put on their doorposts and lintels. This angel of death will thus not kill any of the Israelites’ firstborn – but only if he sees the blood properly applied to the doorposts and lintels of their houses.

In other words, the blood of this blemish free lamb was being used for protection before this attack would come their way. Had each person not properly applied the blood on their doorposts – their firstborn children would have been killed along with the rest of the firstborn of the Egyptians.

Here is my argument on this. If the shed blood of the Old Testament lambs used for the temporary forgiveness and covering of sins eventually leads to the shedding of Jesus’ blood for permanent and total forgiveness of all of our sins – can we also use that same analogy and say that the shed blood of the lamb used in the Passover for protection could also lead to the shed Blood of Jesus having protection in it?
I personally believe that the answer is yes, and that is why God the Father seems willing to honor any believer who will plead the blood on whatever he wants protection on before any attack can come their way – just like He did in the story of the Passover with His own chosen people.


God bless,

Stever :-D

 2006/6/19 19:41
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The Blood of Christ was what the Father required that we might be redeemed. The blood does no have life in it. It is Christ Himself that is the Life of the Believer. The Blood was a symbol of what was required of the flesh that needed to be saved. The Blood gave us the sacrifice of Christ Himself on our Cross, for every believer was on that Cross with Him, all the sin of the whole world past, present and future was on Him. So reckon yourselves to dead with Him. Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Our life is in Christ, not the blood. The blood is at the bottom of the Cross poured out on the altar of this earth, this world for the efficacy of cleansing it that Christ might rule on it when He comes back to rule on it, or the Father would have to completely destroy it before Christ could rule it. The blood is still seen by the Father all the way from the whipping post to the bottom of the Cross. It cries our to Him from the Ground. That is why Christ can be born again in the fleshly temple of believers. Born again in Spirit and being born again in Soul-mind, and will be born again on resurrection day.

Pleading the blood as you say is not in scripture. It is earthly as over the door posts of the passing over of the death angle. Christ is heavenly, His Life is our Life, we won't have blood either when it come resurrection day as we will be just like Him, as far as we have been shown, that will be a body like His, flesh and bone, not flesh and blood.

Seek Christ and His righteousness and all things will be added unto us. There is life in Christ, not the Blood. 1 John 5:10-15 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. We don't ask in the name of His Blood. It is Christ that Satan flees from. It is Christ that heals us by His stripes, It is His Life that gives us life, not His death, that was the atonement that we might have life.

The life is not in the blood, it is Christ and His Body and Spirit, that we have life in. Christ in you the Hope of Glory.

Logic posted questions, answer's below.

(1) What does "the Blood" mean or represeant?
A. Atonement
(2) What is "the Blood" that you are pleeding?
B. The Blood of the Atonement, nothing else.
(3) What is the purpose of the pleading?
C. Unknown
(4) Why does the Blood need to be pleaded?
D. It does not.


In Christ: Phillip


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 Re: Whu Did Jesus Die?

Why did our Lord die?

1. The Presence of Sin . . .

When Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden, sin invaded the human race.


"Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, FOR THAT ALL HAVE SINNED:" Romans 5:12

". . . for there is no difference. FOR ALL HAVE SINNED, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:22b-23

"If we say that we have not sinned, WE MAKE HIM A LIAR, and his word is not in us." 1 John 1:10

"If we say that we have no sin, WE DECEIVE OURSELVES, and the truth is not in us." 1 John 1:8


2. The Penalty of Sin . . .


"For the wages of sin is DEATH; . . ." Romans 6:23a

Not just physical death, but something far more serious — SPIRITUAL DEATH — in hell!


"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH." Revelation 21:8
The Payment of Sin . . .


To cover the sin of Adam and Eve, THE BLOOD of an innocent lamb was shed. (Gen. 3:21)


" . . . John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold THE LAMB of God, which TAKETH AWAY THE SIN of the world." John 1:29
Friend, Jesus Christ shed His blood on the cross to pay the penalty for YOUR sin!


"Who his own self bare OUR SINS in his own body on the tree,. . ." 1 Peter 2:24

" . . . Unto him that loved us, and washed us from OUR SINS in his own BLOOD," Revelation 1:5b
What can wash away my sin?

NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS!

Not church membership, not sacrements, not baptism, not good works,


" . . . without shedding of BLOOD is no remission." Hebrews 9:22

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him." Romans 5:8-9

The Blood of Jesus Christ is powerful. It covers over our crimson stain of sin:
Isaiah 1:18.
The Blood of Christ is so very powerful that it protects us from the Angel of Death: "And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are:
and when I see the blood I will pass over you, and the Plague shall not be upon you to destroy you." Exodus 12:13

The death referred to here in Exodus was physical.
The Blood applied spiritually here to our confessed sins saves us from the Second Death: eternal separation from God.......
2 Thessalonians 1:9; Revelation 2:11; Rev. 20:6; Rev. 20:14; Rev. 21:8

When God's Word tells us that the Blood is a token, that is saying that the
blood of an animal--- used in obedience to God's command--- signified a greater truth.
That truth is this : that someday God's own Son would be sacrificed for our sin, instead of an animal.....
that Jesus' Blood would cover over us in protection from death and sickness, just like at Passover.

But God would not do this automatically. He would have to be asked.
We would have to plead the Blood of Christ in our own personal circumstances,
in order for the power to be released. "Ye have not because ye ask not" James 4:2 ;
1 John 3:22. Blood has a voice. Genesis 4:10

The Blood of Christ is not visible to us, but it is screaming red to demons.
They can not remain in the presence of the Blood of Jesus Christ.
The Blood is God's Trophy whereby the demons were defeated at the Cross of Calvary.

Colossians 2:13-- 15
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh,
hath He quickened together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses.

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us,
which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His cross.

And having spoiled principalities and powers,
He made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it."

There, Jesus openly triumphed over them by dying a death not due Him,
since in Him there was no sin, and therefore no cause for the death penalty.

PLEADING THE BLOOD OF JESUS

The demons failed totally at Calvary, and lost their deed to our souls at Golgotha.
The Blood of Jesus Christ, over His beloved, reminds them of their hollow abilities,
made null and void on the day of Christ's martyrdom.

The demons are now powerless over our souls, because of the Blood of Jesus Christ. I Corinthians 2:7, 8

Christ did not have to die for our sins. He died willingly and lovingly.His mercy and lovingkindness endures forever. Psalm 136 [ The Great Hallel Psalm]

APPLYING THE BLOOD
The Old Testament is filled with examples of the blood of animals being used as a TOKEN of a greater truth.

The greater Truth is that the blood-sacrifice of Jesus on Calvary paid for the ransom of our souls, and also opened up a Fountain of Blood-protection from all the demons that daily rage against us:
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary [your enemy] the devil, as a roaring lion walketh about, seeking whom he may devour." I Peter 5:8 ; John 10:10.

Do we have our Blood-shield about us? Genesis 15:1
Is Christ's Blood applied to the Altar of our day, as well as to the altar of our tongue?

In Leviticus 8 we see Aaron, the high priest, slay the ram of Consecration and then Moses, their deliverer, sprinkles the blood upon the altar, their garments, and upon their right ear, thumb and toe.
["ear" signifying the 5 senses separated unto God....E.W. Bullinger, Number in Scripture, pg.146 ]
This is a Token, that we too should ask to be covered with the Precious Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

"The tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity [sin]...it defileth the whole body,
it is set on fire of hell." James 3:5,6
"But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison." James 3:8

"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart [rationalizes], this man's religion is vain." James 1:26

"Death and life are in the power of the tongue" Proverbs 18:21
[over-indulgence too, Philippians 3:19]

When we ask for the covering of Christ's Blood upon our tongue, speech and words, we ask to be guarded against using our tongue for evil, lies, anger, gossip and those many idle words we say:
"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of Judgement.

For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matt. 12: 36, 37

"Neither murmur ye [complain, provoke, accuse] as some of them
[Sinai sojourners] also murmured, and were destroyed of the Destroyer [Satan].
I Corinthians 10:10

As we surrender to Christ's power within us by His Blood---from which the demons
tremble--we take that unruly tongue and make it an altar of praise and gratitude:

"Take with you words, and turn to the LORD:
say unto Him,'Take away all iniquity [sin], and receive us graciously:
so will we render the 'calves' of our lips" "as bullocks the offering of our lips"
Hosea 14:2

"By Him [Jesus] therefore let us offer the Sacrifice of Praise to God continually
( even when we don't feel like it ) that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to His Name." Hebrews 13:15.

With His Blood-shield upon our mouths, the consequences will be well pleasing:
"I AM thy Shield, and thy exceeding great Reward." Genesis 15:1
"But Thou O LORD, art a Shield for me" Psalm 3:3

Our eyes too need to be screened by the Blood of Jesus Christ--- all that we look upon--- TV, cyberspace, magazines, videos, movies, books etc.

We are told in the Book of Job to make a covenant with our eyes , our Blood-covenant:
Job 31:1,7 ; 1 John 2:16 ; Psalm 101:3.

And not only the Altar of our tongue, and our eyes need to be covered over with
His Precious Blood, but also our toe [everywhere we go, every purpose and plan...our daily walk ]
"He that hasteth with his feet sinneth" [ Proverbs 19:2 to resist rushing. ]

...and our thumb [ every work and skill that we do...our acts ]
and our ear [ all that enters into our mind: all that we listen to [TV, radio, concerts, CD's, teachings, the voice of others, sermons etc.]... all of these need to be filtered through His Precious Blood.
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In conclusion, I know that this post drives some brothers and sisters in Christ absolutely nuts, but it is still all true, and part of something that we will only begin to see and understand when we have become like HIM, at the resurrection. Now, we see through a glass darkly, but then, face to face!

"1 Cor 13:11-12 " 11. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."


God bless,

Stever :-D

 2006/6/20 0:40
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There is no diminishing of the precious blood of Christ which was shed on the Cross, every drop of that precious perfect blood from a perfect body that had been ravaged beyond recognition, looses it efficacy unless we seek the life of Christ in us as our life. It is His life that we live, not His death. That perfect blood cries out to God the Father from the Ground at the base of the Cross still. When we sin it still cleanses us, because The Father still hears it screaming Father Forgive them for they know not what they do. Those that accept the blood shed at the Cross and the Truth of God that this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased and believe are saved and becoming the son's of God being taught by the Holy Spirit how precious that Blood Shed Was and the Life it gives by the death of Christ for our redemption. It is Christ that gives us life, the Blood of Christ is the method of impartation of His Life in us. Pleading it makes a mockery of what it accomplished for every believer. Understanding the atonement and that it was the Blood of God the Father in His only Begotten Son that was the only sacrifice The Father could accept for the sin of the whole world, and all creation not understanding why the Blood had to be shed is the true meaning of the Shed blood of Christ. Pleading it for our own earthly wants and thought needs for protection from earthly circumstances and situations takes away from the true Power of The Blood that was to be shed.
Mar 8:33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

Rom 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

This is what the blood did. That we should walk in newness of Life which is Christ in you the Hope of Glory.

In Christ by the Blood of Christ: Phillip


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 Re: Pleading the blood?

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It is His life that we live, not His death.

Phillip,

This is true, but I remember a time when I was trying to live the life, (and I believe God had given me His Spirit already), but, I had not understood that I could not skip from my old life to His new life, without [i][b]receiving[/b][/i] His death. For me this was the single most important piece of spiritual understanding which has facilitated everything since. Nothing [i]works properly[/i] in our salvation, until we have [i]understood[/i] why we should embrace His death and be thankful for it. It is indeed welcome.

 2006/6/20 3:06
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Mine was a little different, I had to receive my own death on the Cross with Him, in that is receiving His death, I guess they are the same. I kept trying and trying until I knew I was dead, in Him and to sin. Now I choose do it out of Love for Him. I had to see myself as dead as He was and as dead to sin as He is that is in me.

In Christ: Phillip


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