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Joined: 2003/5/24
Posts: 138
Chicago IL USA


**** I just want scripture not conjecture*** thanks.

How does one lose their strength if they never had any and are not able to attain any of their own? (For true power is God)

Please share with me some Scriptures for Those backsliders who to often become at ease with the world and its ways.

Please provide if you would some Spirit inspired Words that speaks to those who are all too often drifting in and out of the Way.

Thank you


 2006/6/11 2:30Profile

Joined: 2002/12/11
Posts: 37004
"Pilgrim and Sojourner." - 1 Peter 2:11

 Re: Drifting

"Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." - James 4:4

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him." - 1 John 2:15

SI Moderator - Greg Gordon

 2006/6/11 2:34Profile

 Re: Drifting

How does one lose their strength if they never had any and are not able to attain any of their own?

The last verse of John's first epistle says 'Little children, [b]keep yourselves[/b] from idols.'

The 'keep' is the part of a castle which was most fortified, in the centre of the whole edifice. It is supplied with water and stocked with supplies for times of siege by the enemy.

Luke 8:15
But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, [u]having heard the word, [b]keep[/b] it[/u], and bring forth fruit with patience.

Luke 11:21
When a strong man armed [u]keeps[/u] his palace, his goods are in peace:

Luke 11:28
But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that [b]hear the word of God, and [u]keep[/u] it[/b].

Philipp 4:7
And [b]the peace of God[/b], which passeth all understanding, [b]shall keep your hearts and minds[/b] [u]through Christ Jesus[/u].

Jude 1:21
[b]Keep yourselves in the love of God[/b], looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

1 Peter 1:5
Who are [u]kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation[/u] ready to be revealed in the last time.

I believe the Holy Spirit gives us enough power to take action against our own difficulties.

Whether we need to mortify the flesh through neglecting to feed those wants which conflict with God's wants for our lives, or, to enable us to do things which will actively promote His control of our time and spending, or will develop our faith in His strengths and power to keep us, we reap the consequences of what we choose - towards death (weakness) or towards life (eternal life).

Luke 15:17
And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have [b]bread enough and to spare[/b], and I perish with hunger!

John 6:32
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.

Romans 8:11
But if [u]the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead[/u] dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead [u]shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you[/u].

 2006/6/11 6:03

Joined: 2003/6/11
Posts: 9192
Santa Clara, CA

 Re: Drifting

1Co 9:27 But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified. (ESV)

[i]If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed. Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, and the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:(For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
For our God is a consuming fire.[/i]

Heb 12:7-29

Mike Balog

 2006/6/11 9:16Profile

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