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 John Piper -- A divine and supernatural light immediately imparted to the soul by the Spirit of God


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2 Corinthians 3:18 - 4:7

And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are
being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to
another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.

Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose
heart.

But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to
practice cunning or to tamper with God's word, but by the open statement
of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the
sight of God.

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are
perishing.

In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the
unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the
glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with
ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake.

For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," has shone in our
hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face
of Jesus Christ.

But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing
power belongs to
God and not to us.

I know that you have gotten a heavy dose of Edwardsian theology. I hope
that what you will get now in the next half-hour is faithful, Biblical
exposition. I do believe that all that you have heard from this pulpit
has been true and reflects the Scripture. I hope that it will be more
manifestly Biblical because of our exposition this morning.

As you remember, I'm responding to an objection. The objection after I
lifted up the centrality of joy in the Deity and the centrality of joy in
our glorifying Him. I raised the objection, "Where was the cross in all
of that ? Where was the gospel in all of that ? Where was the
justification by grace alone through faith alone on the ground of the
righteousness of Christ alone ? And where was regeneration in all of that
?" And so that's what I'm responding to.

Focus with me now for a few moments on the root of Jonathan Edwards'
God-entranced vision of all things. It's rooted, it's sunk in three
levels of salvation that I see, especially in verses 4 and 6. The reason
that Edwards vision of all things is so God-centered and so God-exalting
and so God-entranced is that each of the three levels that are mentioned
in these two verses, verse 4 and verse 6, of 2 Corinthians 4; He is
sovereign, He is decisive, He is beautiful at each of the three levels.

Let me read with you verse 4, and I'll point out the three levels briefly
and then we'll come back and let Edwards do the exposition. Verse 4:

"In their case (those who are perishing, that is) the god of this world
has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing (now
watch very carefully here and see if you see three levels in the next
words ) the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image
of God."

Now notice the close parallel in verse 6:

"For God, who said, 'Let light shine out of darkness,' has shone in our
hearts to give (now notice the parallels) the light of the knowledge of
the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

Let me just point out the parallels very carefully, as you look at verse
4 and 6. Both verses have the term light: the light of the gospel, the
light of the knowledge. The word gospel is parallel to the word knowledge
in verse 6. The light of gospel corresponds to light of knowledge. So the
gospel he has in mind here is a proclamation of something that can be
known. And then the parallel of the glory of Christ in verse 4 to the
glory of God in verse 6, followed by words that make plain that the glory
of Christ and the glory of God are the same glory. In verse 4, the glory
of Christ who is the image of God, and in verse 6, the glory of God which
shines out from the face of Christ. When you came face to face with
Christ, as you read his history in the gospels, you come face to face
with God and the glory of God. So I hope you see the parallel structure
of verse 4 and verse 6; now here are the three levels of salvation that I
want to talk about.

We'll start with the deepest level. I have them, levels is not the ideal
phrase, I apologize, you pick a better phrase. I'm gonna start with the
deepest level and move up. The deepest level of salvation is in the
phrase "the glory of God in the face of Christ" in verse 6, or "the glory
of Christ, who is the image of God." This is the objective glory of God.
Dr. Packard referred to this word kabod, or glory, having these multiple
layers of meaning. The glory in its intrinsic beauty, the glory emanating
out, the glory (Edwards word ) reminating back, and all of that, a Bible
use of glory. This glory is the glory of Christ, the image of God, the
glory of God in the face of Christ. This is the objective reality that's
out there in Christ and in God.

Now I call this the deepest level of salvation. Because you can't go
beneath this on your way to hope and joy. There is no deeper reality,
there is no higher or greater value than the glory of God in Christ. When
you have this, you are at the end of your quest. You have come home. The
glory of God is not a means to anything greater. You don't step on it on
your way to anything. This is ultimate reality. All true salvation ends
here, not before and not beyond. There is nothing beyond and everything
before is not good enough. This is the end of salvation. This is
salvation, the glory of God in Christ is what makes the gospel "gospel."
The glory of God in Christ seen and finally possessed, and being as it
were, swallowed up into, is what makes the good news finally good.
Nothing short of it is the end of the gospel. That's level one.

Level two. I'm a sinner, and will be incinerated by that glory, if I go
there by myself in my righteousness. We need gospel events, we need
something to have happened. So you see in verse 4, the word gospel, the
light of the gospel; and you see knowledge in verse 6, the light of the
knowledge, I need to know something; something had to have happened in
history that I can know that will somehow create a good news for a
sinner, who, if I were to approach the ultimate goal of the gospel, I
would be consumed, destroyed, incinerated; because I'm so unworthy, have
been such a rebel. And, therefore, we have this word gospel. That's level
two. We'll come back and talk about what it is.

Level three. I don't want the gospel. I hate the gospel. I hate God. Why,
I have all I want. Nobody would come to the gospel unless light dawned in
their hearts. So now we have light. This is the third level of salvation.
Verse 4, light of the gospel. Verse 6, light of the knowledge. And then,
back up to the beginning of verse 6, and you see the most clear statement
of this miracle that has to happen for me, because in my fallenness, I
just don't want the gospel, the cross is foolishness to me, the glory of
God is boring to me, and I'm just not interested until God, who said at
the beginning of creation, "Let light shine out of darkness", has in a
corresponding, miraculous, sovereign, Creator way, shone in my heart to
give light. And suddenly I see. Glory, beauty, truth in what I once had
called foolishness and a stumbling block. Now those are the three levels
that need to be opened. Those are the three levels in which the
God-entranced vision that you've been hearing from every speaker is
rooted. Seeing, savouring, enjoying the glory of God is at the bottom.
Then because we are guilty, hell-deserving sinners, there is Christ
coming into the world to save sinners, proclaimed as gospel. And as it
arrives to people who aren't the least interested in it, and don't want
it, and are rebels against it, a work of creation happens, called light,
spoken by the Sovereign God. Those are the three levels. Let's let
Edwards now talk to us, because he loved these levels, he understood
these levels, he delighted in these levels; because he was a sinner.

Level number one; the deepest level of salvation: the glory of Christ.
Edwards believed that the glory of God in Christ was displayed,
manifested most clearly in the gospel events. The work of Christ in
coming, living a perfect life, and dying, and rising, and ascending, and
reigning, and interceding. He believe that great glorious work was the
best display of the glory of God, which we will contemplate forever. He
believed that that gospel of Christ's saving activity carried in its
glory its own evidence, and was self-authenticating. So that when you
saw the glory of God in it, you knew you were seeing the glory of God in
it. Let me read you the way he puts it:

"Thus the soul may have a kind of intuitive knowledge of the divinity of
the things exhibited in the gospel; not that he judges the doctrines of
the gospel to be from God, without any argument or deduction at all; but
it is without any long chain of arguments; the argument is but one, and
the evidence direct; the mind ascends to the truth of the gospel but by
one step, its divine glory."

In other words, when the gospel is faithfully preached, and Christ living
a perfect life as our spotless high priest and righteousness and laying
himself down as a perfect lamb and raising himself up, "Nobody takes my
life from me: I lay it down of my own accord, and if I lay it down, I
will take it again", rising up, proving, ascending. When that gospel is
faithfully preached in the power of the Holy Spirit, a divine glory
shines out through it, so that the spiritual eyes being illumined by this
light, may ascend by no long chain of argument to an absolute certainty
this is of God. Oh my, how miraculous and supernatural is the gospel.

Edwards labored in his preaching to put the glory of Christ on display in
the gospel. Perhaps one of the best places, if you've bought anything of
Edwards, and if you bought the two works, it's in there. Maybe one of the
best sermons he ever did was "The Excellency of Christ." I've preached
my version of it several times to my church over the 23 years, they don't
know that, you don't know that, but I did. He took his text from
Revelation 5:5-6, where Christ is described as the "Lion of Judah" and
the "Lamb standing as though it had been slain" Lion of Judah, Lamb
slain. And he says, here's the doctrine he draw out...

"There is an admirable conjunction of diverse excellencies in Jesus
Christ."

Now the reason I'm focusing on this, I'm going to read you the summary of
his sermon that he himself wrote. The reason I'm focusing here to get at
the glory, because I do believe when I talk about the self-authenticating
Christ in the gospel, the self-evidencing Christ in the gospel; I don't
mean there's nothing you can say when you're sharing the gospel, and He's
just got to do it, miraculously without the words. I don't mean that,
Edwards didn't mean that, no gospel preacher has ever meant that. We
mean, we try to display with our inadequate language the diverse
excellencies which, when they come together, strike the hearer illumined
as inimitable on planet Earth by the resources in human nature. And
therefore real true authentic of God. Lion and Lamb. And that he just
works these for probably 45 minutes. And I'll do it in 30 seconds. Here
it goes.

Meeting together in Jesus Christ are infinite highness and infinite
condescension . . . infinite justice and infinite grace . . . infinite
glory and lowest humility . . . infinite majesty and transcendent
meekness . . . deepest reverence towards God and equality with God . . .
infinite worthiness of good, and the greatest patience under the
sufferings of evil . . . an exceeding spirit of obedience, with supreme
dominion over heaven and earth . . . absolute sovereignty and perfect
resignation . . . and self-sufficiency, and an entire trust and reliance
on God.

And on and on we could go in declaring the excellencies, the diverse
convergence of excellencies in our Self-Authenticating Saviour. Do not be
ashamed to tell people of Christ. He will handle His being seen.

That's the glory of Christ. To see him and be with him and to enjoy him
is our final and all-satisfying salvation. The end for which we were
made - to spend eternity (to use Sam Storms words ) in the joys eternal
increase, (and to use Packer's and Lewis' phrase), the eternal
enlargement of our enjoyment of that glorious Christ is the end of
salvation and the deepest level of our salvation.

However, I am a sinner, and so are you. I am guilty and I deserve
everlasting punishment in hell, because my sins are against an infinitely
holy God, and therefore, they are infinitely heinous, and therefore they
deserve an infinite punishment. So I will never enjoy the glory of God,
because I will spend eternity in hell, cut off from the glory of God.
Unless He has done something. Unless He has done something to save me.
Save me for His glory. To enjoy His glory, to see His glory. And what He
has done is called the gospel.

So level number two: the level of the Gospel.
2 Corinthians 4:4 -- "the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ."

Edwards loved, because he was a sinner; oh how he knew his sin, oh how he
knew his hell, and oh how he knew his heaven. And because he knew his sin
and his hell so well, he loved the double truth, the double truth , that
Christ satisfied the righteous wrath of God by dying in our place, and
that Christ performed a perfect righteousness which God reckons to us by
faith alone. This double truth is the heart of the gospel, and both are
crucial. Edwards was jealous for the whole glory of God. The whole glory
of God in Christ. He was jealous that Christ get glory as my substitute
sacrifice, as my substitute sin-bearer, as my substitute punishment, as
the one who bears the curse and the wrath for me, and absorbs everything
that would have crushed me eternally in hell. He loves to magnify Christ
as the one who does that. And he loves to glorify Christ as the one who
comes to believers and imparts to them a sanctifying righteousness. And
makes us degree by degree into the image of Himself, and the glory of
Father. Real moral change wrought by Jesus' Spirit. He loves to magnify
the glory of his Saviour in those two ways, and he loves to glorify his
Saviour, who wrought out for him, lived out for him, a perfect obedience
and righteousness, demanded from me by God, which I never have nor ever
can perform. Which will then be by grace alone, through faith alone,
imputed to me freely, as the only ground of my acceptance. He loved to
magnify the whole glory of Jesus. Not two-thirds of the glory of Jesus.
He loved the doctrine, the truth, the reality of justification by grace
alone through faith alone, grounded on the righteousness wrought by
Christ alone. And, oh how we ought to love our Saviour's whole work. It
ought to be our song in the night.

I'll stick this in, perhaps it will be significant. I was standing with
the choir back here, they're scattered all over the place now, praying
with them before. And I didn't say it, but I thought this. We're praying
for you, and exalting in the gospel; and I thought, and I should have
said, "Some of you are going to sing at my funeral, please sing at my
funeral." Chuck, have a big choir. And know this. That at that funeral,
or as any of us walk toward it, through the hospital bed, or through old
age, let us at those funerals, and on those hospital beds, love this
work. This wrath-bearing, sin-bearing work. This imputed alien
righteousness of Christ. Which I never could have performed. Never in
eternity could I be a righteous person, because I will always be the John
Piper who, the cumulative Piper will always be a sinful Piper. There is
no hope of acceptance with God in me and what I am. I must be clothed in
an alien asbestos righteousness, transparent to the glory of God that can
take me into the flame of that 6 trillion degree centigrade holiness and
enjoy it, instead of being consumed by it. I've got to have another
righteousness.

Oh, Edwards loved the gospel. You know why ? Don't be afraid of those
awful sermons you're going to see about hell and damnation. He loved the
gospel because he felt so the weight of damnation. Listen, this is
Edwards.

"If it be allowed that it is requisite that great crimes should be
punished with punishment in some measure answerable to the heinousness of
the crime . . . because of their great demerit and the great abhorrence
and indignation they justly excite: - it will follow that it is requisite
that God should punish all sin with infinite punishment, because all sin,
as it is against God, is infinitely hateful to him, and so stirs up
infinite abhorrence and indignation in him."

And there are two ways that God can settle these accounts. Either that
abhorrence and that just indignation against my rebellion and my sin and
my hardness of heart can be poured out on His Son, my substitute at the
cross, or it can be poured out on me in my unbelief in hell forever.
Those are the only two options if God is to be just. And praise be to His
name, He did not just leave the second option to us. At the cost of His
own Son, God did not spare (hear that word, and the heart of God) God did
not spare his own Son, (I have two of mine sitting down here, I have four
sons) God did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all. He was
wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities, upon
him, from his Father was the chastisement that made us whole, and by his
stripes we have everlasting healing. All of us like sheep have gone
astray, we've turned every one of us to our rebellious own ways, and the
Lord, in unspeakable mercy, has laid on him, the iniquity, the wrath, the
curse, the guilt of us all.

And he loved, he loved, the double truth; not only the satisfaction of
God's wrath by the sin-bearing Son; but also the performance of a
righteousness on my behalf which would grant me a title to heaven. In
other words, not only is my title to hell cancelled, but my title to
heaven is provided. Let me read this for you, this is Edwards:

"We are accepted, and approved of God as heirs of salvation," and we now
know the deep fulness of that word, as heirs of salvation "not out of
regard to the excellency of our own virtue or goodness, or any moral
fitness therein . . . but only on the account of the dignity and moral
fitness of Christ's righteousness."

He loved the double truth of the gospel. Let God speak.

That I be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes
from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the
righteousness from God that depends on faith.

For Christ is the end or goal of the law for righteousness to everyone
who believes

For our sake God made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we
might become the righteousness of God.

For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by
the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous

Double glory here. The glory of Christ as our sin-bearing substitute, and
the glory of Christ as our righteousness, which commends us to God
sufficiently, and without which, nothing can commend us to God. That's
level two of our salvation, the gospel.

There's another problem now, there's another problem. The natural mind,
that is, the fallen mind, without any influences from the Holy Spirit
yet; the natural mind, worldly, does not want to be saved. It doesn't
want to be saved the way I have defined salvation, the way Paul is
defining, the gospel of the glory of Christ. Oh, the natural mind wants
out of hell. And will do anything you tell him to do to get out of there.
Pray any prayer, sign any card, go to any meeting. The natural mind wants
to be healed of diseases. Of course, no regeneration needed there.
Everybody wants to be well. The natural mind wants to go to heaven to be
with mom or wife or child. No spirituality in that, that's purely
natural. Oh sure, if salvation means escape from hell, a lot of nice
things happening in this life, and heaven with lots of either virgins or
reunion with mom or eternal golf or something like that. Everybody
without any new birth would want that. And if you offer it in those terms
would probably take it. And you can build big churches that way.

Level three is the level of regeneration, which is necessary because none
of those things are salvation. Enjoying forever with an eternal
enlargement Christ who is the image of God is salvation. And nobody on
planet Earth wants to go there and do that. Nobody loves Christ more than
they love being praised by men. Nobody loves Christ and delights in
Christ more than sex and lust and pornography. Nobody loves Christ more
than succeeding at the job so that people look with favor upon us. Nobody
loves Christ more than wife and children and family. There's nobody that
wants to be saved, if salvation means enjoy Christ more than anything.
And so in our rebellion and our darkness, we need to go to verse 6 and
see what has to happen. And pray as you go, that it would happen to you,
if it hasn't already.

God who said, Let light shine out of darkness -- now you see that's an
allusion back to creation, so the analogy with what must happen in my
heart is to the creative work of God out of nothing on the first day---
For the God who said, Let light shine out of darkness, has shone in our
hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face
of Jesus Christ. The way anybody gets converted, the way anybody comes to
see and savour the glory of Christ as their greatest treasure and their
sweetest joy is that God sovereignly causes light to shine in the hearts;
so that we're no longer stumbling about in the darkness, feeling a cross,
and saying, "Stupid, ugly, boring." But the light comes on and we see a
Saviour giving himself for us, we see a God reaching out to us with his
arms wide, saying, "Faith alone, trust alone, just fall into my arms as
your treasure." And we say, how can we not ? which is all that Calvinists
mean when they say irrestible grace. We don't mean any yanking around
against anybody's will. The solution, what we need is not free will, we
need wills made free. We need that our...we're so enslaved to pride and
movies and sports and scholarship and ministry maybe and family. We're
just enslaved to bad things and good things, so that we can't even
conceive in our minds of delighting in God above all things. Because
we're so enslaved in what we will. We must be set free, we must
experience the words of Jesus outside the tomb of Lazurus. "Lazurus, come
forth." And that word creates obedience. Lazurus, the dead man, obeyed
the command of the Sovereign Saviour. That's how anybody gets saved. Only
it happens here in this verse with light. Let there be light, and
suddenly all the darkness that distorts reality and makes the fleeting
pleasures of sin, which are poison taste like sweet wine, all the
darkness flees, and we say "Blcch", how could I have ever given myself to
that ?? And then we look at the fountain of everlasting life, and we say
"How could I have ever committed such blasphemy as to turn away from
that, and try to drink that arsenic ? Oh forgive me, I am so sorry."
That's where repentance comes from. When we see, finally, by the
illumination; what horrors we have committed in loving the unlovely.

Edwards calls it regeneration. It's a fancy word, you know the biblical
word. It's being born again. We must be born again. He calls it a divine
and supernatural light immediately imparted to the soul by the Spirit of
God. That's the title I gave to this message. A divine and supernatural
light immediately imparted to the soul by the Spirit of God. I think
that's what you're reading in verse 6. Let there be light and light
immediately is imparted to the soul. And what was once regarded as folly
and a stumbling block becomes the wisdom of God, and the power of God.

Listen to Edwards describing regeneration:
"The first effect of the power of God in the heart in regeneration, is to
give the heart a Divine taste or sense; to cause it to have a relish for
the loveliness and sweetness of the supreme excellency of the Divine
nature."

That's how you became a Christian. You didn't have to know that. I hope
now that you know it, you'll give Christ more glory. You'll give your
Father more honour, you'll give the Spirit his due. Before regeneration -
before God creates the new taste for Christ - money and comfort and ease
and security and sexual stimulation and food and success and family and
productivity and the praise of men tasted better than Christ. And after
regeneration they don't. Something has happened. God has shone in our
hearts, everything is illuminated. And the pleasures of this world are
seen to be fleeting and suicidal. And God is seen to be permanent and
infinitely satisfying. What we once thought was bloody boring cross turns
out to be the beautiful treasure chest of holy joy. (or the one we
thought was a bloody, boring fool turns out to be the beautiful treasure
chest of holy joy)

Now I'm moving to Friday's night message to make the connection. Edwards
says,
"The change that takes place in a man, when he is converted . . . is not
that his love [or desire] for happiness is diminished, but only that it
is regulated."

Say it another way. When you're born again, your desires for happiness
are not diminished, contradicted, thrown away, said to be sinful. They
are simply now miraculously and spiritually given a whole new taste and
direction. Spiritual things, God Himself, Christ, the cross, the glorious
work of redemption, become your portion. And you say with the psalmist
"You have shown me the path of life, in your presence is fullness of joy,
at your right hand are pleasures forevermore."

Here's my conclusion. I argued Friday night that Jonathan Edward'
God-entranced vision of all things is essentially this:

"God is glorified not only by His glory's being seen . . . but by its
being rejoiced in."

And I drew out these implications. Our passion for satisfaction in God is
a barometer of our passion for His glory; since He is glorified in our
being passionate for joy in Him. Our joy in Him is the barometer of our
glorifying Him. And I drew out this implication which follows from that.
Not to pursue your joy in God is an insult to His glory.

And the objection I raised was where in all of this talk is the cross ?
where is justification by faith ? where is regeneration by the Holy
Spirit ? To which objection I now sum up the answer that we have already
seen. By the cross - that is, by the blood-shedding and the completed
righteousness of Christ - the wrath of God was removed, and the great
obstacle that it interposed between me and everlasting joy was taken
away. His suffering became my punishment, his obedience became my
righteousness, the curse of the law was borne by Christ in his dying, and
the demand and the command of the law was performed by Christ in his
living and dying, so that the curse that was on me and the righteousness
that was demanded from me is now Christ. If somebody asks me on my dying
bed, "What about the curse on sin and you're a sinner ?" I would say,
"Christ is my curse and has taken it from me." And if they say, "Where's
the righteousness that you performed, you proud imperfect father,
husband, pastor ?... grumbler ? tell me that "...that's what Satan will
say when you're dying. And if you do not have ready, "Christ is my
righteousness," then the objection will stand. What has all this joy
talk to do with you, John Piper ? It had nothing to do with me, unless a
door has been opened into paradise through Christ. It has everything to
do with the cross. The cross is my only hope of everything you've heard
in this conference. Because of sin.

And standing in the way between me and everything Edwards has held out to
me, and all the talks that you have heard is my disinterest as a carnal
fallen human. I not only have guilt, I have rebellion, I still want it.
Therefore I not only need the cross work of God in his providing a
sacrifice to absorb his wrath, and his providing a righteousness to
satisfy His demand...i need that. I can't even begin to have any title to
His presence but I need another great work of salvation in my life. I'm a
rebel who hasn't the least interest in coming to receive all this joy
that you've been talking about. Frankly it sounds very boring to me, I
want to just get out of this room and get to the game. And there's only
one hope then. And that's regeneration. The One who said, Let there be
light. Coming now in this room as we close, and doing a miracle by the
gospel through the Spirit. Let there be light. And there was light.

So, the cross, justification by faith, regeneration. What has that to do
with this ? Answer: everything. Because without the cross, without
justification by faith alone, without regeneration, I have no access to
the goal for which I was created. Namely, to display the glory of God in
my everlasting increase of enjoyment in Him. I have no access and no
desire, if it were not for the cross and justification and the
regenerating work of the Spirit in my life. It's a great gospel, my
friends. I know that the vast majority of you revel in it, and would like
now to sing once more about it. So, I'm going to pray, Chuck's going to
come, and I'm going to let you tell the Lord how glad you are as we sing.
But lets pray first.

Father, I pray now for the miracle, perhaps for some it happened in the
twinkling of an eye as the Word was being spoken. For others, they will
go home now and tonight, late, they will be alone, and the thought will
come. Maybe I should think about this. Maybe I should pray. Maybe I
should get out a Bible. And it would happen tonight. God, let it happen.
Let none come under the hearing of this gospel and not see light. The
self-evidental, self-authenticating beauty of Christ who brings together
such diverse excellencies. Oh, Christ, we worship You. We are so glad
that Thine eye diffused a quickening ray. My chains fell off, and I
arose, and I went forth, and followed You. So that there is no, finally,
no condemnation.

Let's stand and sing it one more time.







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"There is an admirable conjunction of diverse excellencies in Jesus"



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I must be clothed in an alien asbestos righteousness, transparent to the glory of God that can take me into the flame of that 6 trillion degree centigrade holiness and enjoy it, instead of being consumed by it. I've got to have another righteousness.



"Meeting together in Jesus Christ are infinite highness and infinite
condescension . . . infinite justice and infinite grace . . . infinite
glory and lowest humility . . . infinite majesty and transcendent
meekness . . . deepest reverence towards God and equality with God . . .
infinite worthiness of good, and the greatest patience under the
sufferings of evil . . . an exceeding spirit of obedience, with supreme
dominion over heaven and earth . . . absolute sovereignty and perfect
resignation . . . and self-sufficiency, and an entire trust and reliance
on God."

Quote:
We don't mean any yanking around against anybody's will. The solution, what we need is not free will, we need wills made free.


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Mike Balog

 2006/2/16 6:46Profile





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