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Discussion Forum : General Topics : Is it God's WILL to heal ALL who come to Him for healing?

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CarlosBCG
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 Is it God's WILL to heal ALL who come to Him for healing?

It's been a while since I have been on this forum but wanting a break from the usual bashing and arguing that happens on many other Christian forums I figured it would be good for me to come here and try my hand at discussing this issue here.

To see if I might be able to have a more reasoned and respectful discussion with some true believers.

Anyway I would like to discuss the issue, if anyone is interested, of whether or not it is God's WILL for ALL to be healed who come to Jesus for physical healing.

I have been thinking about healing and whether or not it is God's WILL for it to be done today as it was in the New Testament.

Please note that I am not saying that there is a promise of healing for ALL (though James 5 seems to be such a promise at least for Christians who fulfill it's conditions).

Only wondering if it is God's WILL for ALL to be healed.

Jesus healed ALL who came to Him. In so far as He was the exact representation of God the Father, expressing God's will perfectly in all that He said and did it stands to reason I think that the fact that He healed ALL was an expression of God's WILL to heal ALL.

I would appreciate hearing anyone's thoughts on this or any aspect of healing that you might have an interest in discussing.

Thanks.

Carlos

 2012/8/18 16:12Profile
Sree
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 Re: Is it God's WILL to heal ALL who come to Him for healing?

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Jesus healed ALL who came to Him.



Jesus did not heal all who came to him. He healed those who came to him with faith that Jesus can heal them if it is his will.

I don't believe there is anything wrong in coming to Jesus for Physical healing, Jesus accepts everyone who comes to him. For example the prodigal son did not come for all good reason, he came back to his father for better food, but his father accepted him. Once you come here, the more you see Jesus you start loving him more and he becomes a part of life. But most of the preachers involved in Healing ministry keep their listeners interested in only healing throughout their life instead of making them focus on other important things in Christian life.

 2012/8/18 17:57Profile









 Re: Is it God's WILL to heal ALL who come to Him for healing?

Hi Brother.
There were some good replies to this one recently ...
http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=46295&forum=34&8

I could tell of a Missionary that GOD had called to a leper colony. He couldn't reach any of them after quite a number of years so he came back home.
Lo and behold, he developed leprosy at home and decided to go back to the leper colony and he won them all to Christ.

Then we have people like Joni. Quadraplegic reaching a whole world of crippled children and disabled folks because they see that she's pretty much worse off than they are.
She paints with her mouth, she sings, she speaks on her radio talk show everyday and reaches many healthy people that think that they have it bad.

We're to be led of His Spirit. If He tells us in our spirit that someone 'will' be healed, than they will be.
We should ask Him to heal us if we're sick and have faith that He can and will heal us - if it's what He has in Mind to do.

I've been healed of a number of ailments since I've known him. Some that the medical world say that only medications can control... He healed without any. But there are times that He doesn't heal. And I can say that because at one point in my life I prayed that GOD would "take everything" from me so that I would only have Him to depend upon and trust in.
He allowed some teeny ticks to wipe me out. It dropped my IQ by about 20 pts. It took my looks away. It took my ability to do my favorite job that was my passion. It left me penniless and 100% alone in a dangerous to my life environment. But through it all - I learned that He is Definitely GOD and One that wants to think for us and supply ALL of our needs - so that we look to Him for even stupid things like us asking where we left our reading glasses.

I couldn't have learned how intimate of a relationship was available, if He hadn't answered that prayer to take it All - but before He answered, I thought I already knew about compassion for sick folks and that His sheep know His voice, etc.. But not like I do now.

There are things that are much more important than how we physically 'feel' and Romans 8:28 being for verse 29 is something that we should keep in mind. Our Blessed Hope while we wait anxiously to see Him as He is.

Hope you can see it,
in His Love.

 2012/8/18 18:00
Solomon101
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It seems to me that many answers may be ones that do not actually answer the question the original poster asked.

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Is it God's WILL to heal ALL who come to Him for healing?



It seems to me that is a very important distinction.

If I understand them correctly they are asking if it is God's will to heal them. In essence does He WANT to heal them?

That is a very different question that if they are all healed or if lack of faith is the only, or primary, reason people do not receive physical healing.

So...is it God's will to heal all people that come to him in faith and ask Him to? Does He WANT and DESIRE them to be made well.... or does He WANT and DESIRE them to be sick, diseased, and hurt?

That's a really good question.

 2012/8/18 19:24Profile
EverestoSama
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 Re:

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So...is it God's will to heal all people that come to him in faith and ask Him to? Does He WANT and DESIRE them to be made well.... or does He WANT and DESIRE them to be sick, diseased, and hurt?



His desire is for men to be conformed to the image of His Son, and to His will. If like Paul, that requires a thorn in the flesh, He'll allow it. Ultimately we're all going to be given a new body anyway. As far as this body goes? He'll use it however He desires, in sickness or in health.

 2012/8/18 19:34Profile
CarlosBCG
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 Re:

I've only got a minute before my computer power goes off for the night but yes...I meant...

Is it God's WILL for all who come to him in faith to be healed?

Everyone who came to Jesus to be healed, which shows some measure of faith, was healed.

Is that an expression of the WILL of God for us all?

I can appreciate how the Lord is using people who are sick or disabled but we must not base any answer to this question on whether God is using sick or disabled people. Rather we should base our answer on what the Word shows us about the WILL of God in this matter and go from there.

God willing...I'll post more tomorrow.

Thanks for the responses so far.

Carlos

 2012/8/18 22:42Profile
CarlosBCG
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Oh...one more thing.

A question really.

How do we know that Paul's thorn in the flesh was a physical ailment or disease as opposed to a Satanic demon or power that oppressed Paul as he went about doing the work of God?

Paul himself said that this thorn in the flesh was a messenger of Satan.

Could that not have been some kind of demon?

Carlos

 2012/8/18 22:44Profile
EverestoSama
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Why did Paul leave Trophimus sick? Why did Paul tell Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach and constant ailments when all Timothy needed was to be in "the will of God?"

 2012/8/19 0:53Profile
TMK
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Here we go again.

There will be 10 pages of responses and no one will change their minds.

There are some people who think that God wants people sick and suffering to teach them a good lesson and others who think that is a bunch on nonsense. There is scriptural evidence on both sides. There is no evidence from scripture that Jesus put sickness on anybody to teach them a lesson. But yet we know of saints in the NT who were not healed. And if God COULD heal them but chooses not to even when they ask, then in a manner of speaking He is putting sickness on them.

So Carlos, if you want to believe that God would rather have people well and not sick, then you can believe that.

And if others want to believe that God wants people sick for His purposes, they can believe that too.


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 2012/8/19 5:44Profile
EverestoSama
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 Re:

But what does the Bible say, or not say?

 2012/8/19 6:22Profile





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