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 Christ did have human flesh and human blood

Because you have boldly stated that Christ's flesh was not human flesh and that His blood was not human blood. I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ. You do not believe that the WORD(Jesus Christ)was made(human)Flesh.

If you are not willing to repent for these lies all your future posts will be tainted by the spirit of antichrist.

1 John 4:3, "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

Rom 1:3, "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;"

“Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.” Hebrews 2:14-15.

Christ did not take upon Himself the nature of an angel. “For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham. Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren The “brothers” and “sisters” are those who are a part of the church of Christ. (Matthew 23:8; Matthew 12:50; Hebrews 2:10-18)... More, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.” Hebrews 2:16-18.


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Vern

 2019/4/17 7:42Profile
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 Re: Christ did have human flesh and human blood



Maybe someone should just say it.

There is no sinful blood. There is no sinless blood.

There are sinful men and there is one sinless man.

Jesus as a man being sinless in word, thought and deed was capable of making atonement for our sins.

The blood of Christ represents the 'life' of Christ physically was shed as it pertains to a clean offering.
But Christ's mind was also just as clean, his heart, will, emotions, desires all equally clean. His deeds and words all equally clean. In this same sense Jesus perfect obedience, Jesus perfect love toward God and man, Jesus heart of compassion and giving, Jesus worship and God glorifying act during his suffering and temptations all equally formed the 'offering' given to God in order to redeem us.

If we add metaphysical qualities to human anatomical parts, we go beyond Christianity into paganism and mysticism.

When a man sins, is it his blood or his heart (mind and will) that has sinned? Jesus warned about what was in the heart of man, not what could epigenetically was transferred to man that defiled him.

One might then assume easily under the same philosophy that the blood of bulls and goats, sheep and rams had sin or were sinless. Since the animals were qualified and disqualified by reason of 'blemish' (lame, sick, sores etc) then the easy and quick assumption is sin is recognized by 'blemish' in men. Leprosy is one such 'blemish' equated with sin.

But is this new covenant thinking? Is this really what Paul and the apostles are teaching the Church?

I will quickly say emphatically NO.


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Marvin

 2019/4/17 11:38Profile
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 epigenetics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPWuJIRlU3M

Very complicated. Look from around 25 minute mark


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J Kruger

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 Re: Christ did have human flesh and human blood

Vern I have not said that Jesus' body was not flesh. PERIOD

God prepared Him a body in the womb of Mary and it was surely flesh and the Blood that had no sin in it. If either had sin there would be no sacrifice without blemish or spot to take away the sin of the world.

In Christ: Phillip


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Phillip

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 Re: Phillip


You said:
“God prepared Him a body in the womb of Mary and it was surely flesh and the Blood that had no sin in it.”


Adam did not have a human father too. His blood did not come from any man but from God. You said yourself that “Adam was perfect including his blood.”


So…………HOW could Adam, having perfect flesh and blood, sin? Unless the ability to sin or not to sin is not determined by whether the blood is “perfect” or not? So, when your blood becomes “perfect” what guarantee is there that you will not sin?

Point is:
There is no correlation between “perfect” blood and sinlessness, proven by Adam’s sin.


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Hi Jade,

Then tell me how does sin and death pass onto all mankind. Are you saying that because Adam sinned and died, why did he die or it had nothing to do with the life of the flesh or does death have nothing to do with Adams sin? Adam was perfect before he sinned; Then what?

Romans 5:12 (KJV) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

In Christ: Phillip


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Marvin, Quote: """Maybe someone should just say it.

There is no sinful blood. There is no sinless blood."""

Then what kills the flesh? With the life of the flesh is blood. If the blood quits flowing you are dead.

In Christ: Phillip


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Hi Phillip,

I will think about this and give you a reply.

Blessings


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 Re: Jochbaptist

I am not disputing the findings of epigenetics or even the exciting new brain science that asserts that our thoughts can switch our genes on and off. It could be so. BUT, when men turn to epigenetics and brain science and whatever else to craft a “god” gene and become like God, sidestepping the cross and resurrection of Christ, and Jesus Himself, then………This is Babel. This is Babylon.

Gen. 11:3-4 –
They said to one another, "Come, let us make bricks and burn them thoroughly." And they used brick for stone, and they used tar for mortar. They said, "Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name, otherwise we will be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth."

Jer. 31:57 –
Babylon will become a heap of ruins, a haunt of jackals, An object of horror and hissing, without inhabitants.

Rev. 18:2 –
Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!


1 Pet. 1:24-25 –
For, "ALL FLESH IS LIKE GRASS,
AND ALL ITS GLORY LIKE THE FLOWER OF GRASS.
THE GRASS WITHERS,
AND THE FLOWER FALLS OFF,
BUT THE WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER."


The way to be like God is not through epigenetics or brain science (which have already made inroads into Christian teaching).


The only way to be like God is to be in Christ and Christ in us (Gal.3:26).

The only path to holiness is the path of the cross.

The only power for a holy life is the power of the resurrection.

And we can only know the unfathomable riches of God when Christ dwells in our hearts by faith and not by our own endeavour but by the Holy Spirit (Eph. 3:14-21).


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Behold the Lamb
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