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JFW
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Well brother we are all wrong sometimes are we not?
If Adam had declared this before the fall it would carry more weight (at least with me) but since his disposition was sinful we'd do well to be cautious with his declarations after sin entered.
This is from another's writings but I post as an example;

For instance, Galileo and Copernicus brought to the church the truth that the earth was not the center of the universe, that the sun did not go around the earth but that the earth went around the sun and that the earth rotated on its axis, giving the illusion that the sun was going around the earth.

We all know this to be true now, but did all good Christians believe it then? No, both John Calvin and Martin Luther clung, along with the church, to the error that the earth was the center of the universe, that the sun went around the earth and that the earth stood still.

"Martin Luther called Copernicus 'an upstart astrologer' and a 'fool who wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy.' Calvin thundered: 'Who will venture to place the authority of Copernicus above that of the Holy Spirit? Do not the Scriptures say that Joshua commanded the sun and not the earth to stand still? That the sun runs from one end of the heavens to the other?'"

Both Calvin and Luther were good, well-meaning men, but they still clung to their false views because they could quote Scripture texts to support them. Likewise, there are good, well-meaning Christians today who also erroneously cling to the doctrine of original sin because they can quote texts from the Bible to "prove" it.


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Fletcher

 2015/10/4 19:30Profile
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Dspks wrote:
"Eve "the mother of ALL living".

The mother of all living **what**??

Surely not rhinoceroses and octopi.


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Todd

 2015/10/4 19:54Profile
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Ha! Brother Todd,
I was thinking that too... perhaps it was metaphorical?
I mean at that point she surely wasn't literally the birth giving "mother" tho perhaps the "care giving" mother...


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Fletcher

 2015/10/4 21:52Profile
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 Re: Caution thrown to the wind

"we'd do well to be cautious with his declarations after sin entered"

I tend to be cautious with NASA's declarations


 2015/10/4 22:02Profile
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 Re: Metaphorical

Perhaps Jesus Christ, and His Crucifixion were metaphorical, too??

Who's to decide??

Wait a minute, I know... NASA!!!

 2015/10/4 22:04Profile
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 erroneously cling

"erroneously cling to the doctrine of original sin"

Oh, now I understand... thanks for the insight.

 2015/10/4 22:13Profile
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Brother dspks,
I meant no disrespect,... nor is it in my heart to be contentious.
Just sharing my thoughts brother, this isn't a personal issue for me.


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Fletcher

 2015/10/4 22:14Profile
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 Just using your logic

"because they can quote texts from the Bible to "prove" it"

Again, I tend to go with the Bible to "prove" reality than go with quote's from NASA's website to "prove" reality.

That's just me...

If you want to establish your "reality" on NASA's declarations... go for it.

 2015/10/4 22:22Profile
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 Re: Just using your logic

Brother dspks,
Are you saying you agree with Luther and Calvin on that issue?


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Fletcher

 2015/10/4 22:27Profile
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I only ask because Gallileo and Copernicus were the "NASA" of their day and the "proof" these brothers found in scripture was actually a misrendering of the text, as such wasn't actually proof of anything other than their ignorance.


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