Hmm. How can ask this tactfully? Who persecuted the Anabaptist? The Catholics or the Calvinists? For that matter. Who cane up with just war and faught such? The Catholics or the Calvinists?

Blaine

Hi Blain

RE : ///Who cane up with just war and faught such? The Catholics or the Calvinists?///

Catholic Augustine whom they both hold in high esteem

Who needs a debate on this? We can figure it out right here on SI. We have the "mind of Christ". He is the One that really explains it all to us.

Hi just-in

just-in wrote : ///Who needs a debate on this? We can figure it out right here on SI. We have the "mind of Christ". He is the One that really explains it all to us.///

This as is with many issues is not as cut and dry as those on both sides of the issue would have us to believe.

I would have preferred the debate to have been between Bercot, Taylor and bible believing evengelicals whom hold to a just war theory rather than it being against catholics whom hold to a just war theory.

I have Dean Taylors book, it was not convincing to me, When I honestly searched the Scriptures with total openess on the subject I found one Scripture on the subject and it is the Scripture that I hold to on the subject : Luke 3:14
(KJV)

14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him,(John the Baptist who was preparing the way) saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, (((Do violence to no man))), neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.

Hey there, proudpapa,

You know, I am using a bit of satire. I certainly would extend to any Christian the freedom to check out any debate they think they have the liberty of watching. It's really none of my business. I was just trying to communicate that the deck is a bit stacked when you have the source of "Just War" (the RCC), backing it up. I think it would be instructive for any Christian who knows their Bible and the Lord, to see how the RCC justifies killing men, women and children. After all, they have done it for centuries and they are not finished, yet. They put a pretty polished spin on it, and you gotta hear it to believe it.

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Who persecuted the Anabaptist? The Catholics or the Calvinists?
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Both did.

Some say the Reformers were worse then the Catholics.

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Sandra Miller

That is a very good point, Greg. I would like to see Peter Kreeft acknowledge Jesus instead of the Pope and many Catholics who may be watching.

RE : ///I was just trying to communicate that the deck is a bit stacked when you have the source of "Just War" (the RCC), backing it up.///

I agree.

I would like to see an open and meek discussion with Bercot,Taylor and that of a True Brother whom might hold a view like what Charles Finney did.
I would like to see a searching of Scriptures on the subject instead of St Augustine/Thomas Aquinas vs Justin Martyr/Origen debate