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madmatg
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 Help my students to know Him

Hello guys/gals, I teach at a univ. in Asia. This semester there have been 4 students who have been the most interested in learning about the bible. But they all have certain walls, especially the "the idea of a Gd is a silly idea" which they have been told and taught their whole life.

ALL of these say they do not yet believe in the idea of God.
The idea of the gospel is totally foreign to them, as it is to everyone I guess. The fact that their works cannot make them right with God is such a strange idea to them. I'll describe them in terms they have used to talk to me.

Loretta - I have had some hard times, my father is abusive, my grandmother was a christian and I want to be a christian but I don't know what that is and I enjoy my sin.

James - I had never thought about the possibility of there being a God but this book seems to be different than the philosophies I've read in the past, they seem so distant but this book seems to be living.

Daniel - I am a good person and I do many good things and the idea that our works can't save us is very discouraging for me since I work so hard to be a good person for that reason.

Wayne - I believe in algebra because it is truth and beauty. I believe that faith has been proved illogical and so it can't be true but I am surprised that the bible says things so differently than I have ever thought about them.

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If you could lift them up and ask for God to do His thing that would be wonderful.


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matt

 2012/12/11 18:52Profile
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 Re: Help my students to know Him

I'll be praying with you for them.

Here is a sermon that you might find encouraging as you share Christ with your students:

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=18861&commentView=itemComments

It's called: God Uses Foolish Things by Jackie Pullinger


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Jeremy Hulsey

 2012/12/11 19:37Profile
madmatg
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Thank you I have listened to that one before,but I will give it another listen, it is very encouraging for this place I live. Thanks for your prayers as well :)


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matt

 2012/12/12 2:16Profile
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 Re: Help my students to know Him

i recommend listening to this sermon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0QePR44tZM

Everything Outside of Christ is Rubbish - Zac Poonen
...self righteousness is also rubbish
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"It seems with mere observation that the sun revolves around the earth, but it is otherwise. And did you know that the earth's rotation speed is about 450 meters per second (faster than sound!), yet we don't even feel it. "I don't feel God", well, it does not change the fact that HE IS what HE IS. Trust Him, don't depend on your "logic"."

 2012/12/12 6:29Profile
lylewise
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 Re: Help my students to know Him

Daniel says," I am a good person and I do many good things ant the idea that our work's can't save us is very discouraging for me since I work hard to be a good person for that reason"


O for the graceful revelation of our incredible God. He who obliterates all concept and notion of our goodness. May God reveal Himself to these students and give them a new education in the Spirit of Higher learning and may they in turn become professors who teach those around them the truth of God.

 2012/12/12 9:36Profile
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 Re: Help my students to know Him

Madmatg,

I hope I'm not presumptious in writing the below. If so, pls forgive me. I know you asked for prayers, but I thought the below might be helpful to you

I have had some limited experience in doing devotions and sharing the gospel with students (although not university level) before. And even with that limited/short time, I have seen how God helped me and the students.

What I do is pray to God to teach me what to say, how to share, how to relate to their lives and so on besides just praying for the students. Its not about just changing the students, its also about changing/molding you, equipping you to do His work. Whenever, the student comes up with questions, you need to pray and find the appropriate bible verse to answer them and explain to them. Not only that, pray with them. That's the way I believe.


For example if Daniel were to say what you have written, I will say something like this :

[Daniel - I am a good person and I do many good things and the idea that our works can't save us is very discouraging for me since I work so hard to be a good person for that reason.]



You know Matthew 11:30 says my yoke is easy and my burden is light. Now, when Christ becomes your saviour and Lord, He will start changing you. You will find that you do want to do good things and you will pray to Him to help you do good things when you find it hard/lazy to do so.

Of course, you will also need to touch on that good works does not save us, only faith in Jesus does ...... However, when you are saved, you will find yourself changing to want to do good works and quote the relevant bible verses.

Ask him whether he's interested in knowing more about God, Jesus. If so, pray with him on asking God for help in opening his eyes. If he comes back to you again saying there have been no/hardly any changes, say that you must persist. When you seek God with all your heart, soul and mind, you will find Him........


If you have done things like this, pls forgive me for repeating what you already know.

Lord, I lift up madmatg and his students to you Lord. Please change and mold them. Open their eyes and teach them your ways so that they might know, love and honor you. In Jesus Christ's name I pray. Amen.








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 2012/12/12 11:15Profile
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 Re: Help my students to know Him

I can associate my past life with Daniel and Wayne. When I was a Hindu I used to think like Daniel, I used to believe that my good will balance my evil. Though it sounds logical, it is not. By doing Good we can never change our inner being to love doing good. When the opportunity strikes we will do evil. If my good can balance out my evil then what is wrong in someone killing me and then distribute half of my wealth to poor? He has done enough good to wipe out his evil.

Regarding Wayne, all of us who have studied science at some point trend to believe the lies that Science teaches us, I was a firm believer in evolution when I was a Hindu. But now I know if evolution is true then God cannot exist. To such people we need to show the proof of existence of God visible in every creation of his (Romans 1). The arguments of creationism clearly shows us the probability of such complex beings formed out of mere coincidence is very less (almost 0) that only a fool will believe in them.


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Sreeram

 2012/12/12 11:44Profile
madmatg
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 Re: Help my students to know Him

@joliboy11 - Thank you for the suggestion on the sermon I will do my best to listen to it this coming week.

@lylewise - amen friend

@learn - thank you very much for your guiding here, I have been taught most of these things before that you mentioned but if you knew me you will know that all the time I need reminders like yours :)

@sree - yes, yes very encouraging to hear a testimony from someone similar to my students! I hope they can one day say something very similar to what you have written here! :)


---- We had another meeting tonight and we are continuing to go through Luke, I was able to find a godly woman here to sort of hand loretta off to (not as though I was throwing her away, I just told her that she might be able to answer questions better since she was a woman also). As for Daniel, James, and Wayne they continue to want to learn about Him but have not come to a place where they are ready to repent and believe. If you have time please pray for them during this time, we have about 3 weeks left until the semester ends and they will go back home for about a month. I thank God for this ability to ask for requests from brothers and sisters all over the world!

Phil 4:4-7


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matt

 2012/12/22 9:28Profile
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You are welcome madmatg. And thank you for the gracious reply. I need lots of reminders myself and am always writing down what I need to know as I do not have a good memory, so can erfectly understand you.

Lord, I lift up the students to you Lord. Plant a seed in them, let it germinate. Even while they are still here or when they go back home, let them read the bible. Stir their hearts Lord, make them curious, make them ask and lead them to the right person/people that will bring them to Christ. I also pray for my brother-in-Christ here madmatg, Lord that you use him mightily. That you give him wisdom and discernment on how to guide the students and anyone that you bring to him. Let him not be discouraged but know your power and your love in ever increasing amounts. In Jesus's precious name amen.


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geraldine

 2012/12/22 10:46Profile
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You are welcome madmatg. And thank you for the gracious reply. I need lots of reminders myself and am always writing down what I need to know as I do not have a good memory, so can erfectly understand you.

Lord, I lift up the students to you Lord. Plant a seed in them, let it germinate. Even while they are still here or when they go back home, let them read the bible. Stir their hearts Lord, make them curious, make them ask and lead them to the right person/people that will bring them to Christ. I also pray for my brother-in-Christ here madmatg, Lord that you use him mightily. That you give him wisdom and discernment on how to guide the students and anyone that you bring to him. Let him not be discouraged but know your power and your love in ever increasing amounts. In Jesus's precious name amen.


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