Quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jake said:"Many people since Jesus' time have had absolutely no opportunity to know Him or the Holy Spirit. ALl of these people, according to your belief system, will go to hell.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ron responded: "When did I ever say anything that made you think that?"This is the logical consequence of your stated religious beliefs. Evangelicalism's entire purpose is to rescue people from hell by relating the saving Grace of Jesus. Presumably those not reached then go to hell.Ron states:"Your inner light appears darker all the time."Ron, why are you engaging in ad hominem attacks? Just because we have a difference of opinion?Yes, I believe in evolution. Yes, I believe in reincarnation. AND Yes, I am a Christian as I follow after Christ and claim the forgiveness of sins through his sacrifice. There is way too much evidence for both of these for me to dismiss them, and the more I research the more these are confirmed.Do you really believe that all of the various races of mankind diverged from Noah's family in the last 6,000 years? That is preposterus, but I am not going to call you names and condemn your faith because you believe this.By attacking me you neglect to actually address the points.Jake
I hate what this tread has turned into... as many others have. I pray this all works for good. Jake may I ask "What preachers on this site do you enjoy listening to?"
_________________Josh Parsley
Quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jake said:"Many people since Jesus' time have had absolutely no opportunity to know Him or the Holy Spirit. ALl of these people, according to your belief system, will go to hell.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ron responded: "When did I ever say anything that made you think that?"This is the logical consequence of your stated religious beliefs. Evangelicalism's entire purpose is to rescue people from hell by relating the saving Grace of Jesus. Presumably those not reached then go to hell.
Ron states:"Your inner light appears darker all the time."Ron, why are you engaging in ad hominem attacks? Just because we have a difference of opinion?
Yes, I believe in evolution. Yes, I believe in reincarnation. AND Yes, I am a Christian as I follow after Christ and claim the forgiveness of sins through his sacrifice.
_________________Ron Bailey
The original theme of this thread was the nature of prophecy. The verse I quoted was John 14:29. This theme is developed more strongly in later verses of the same section of scripture; These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me. [u]But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. [/u]And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you. (Joh 16:1-4)Again, the emphasis does not seem to be on the provision of a predictable timetable, but simply that 'when the time shall come...' His followers would know that all was 'in hand'.I personally think that much of the Revelation of this nature. Not primarily a 'timetable of events' to provide intellectual challenges of spotting the 'symbol', but a series of tableaux which would be immediately recognised by Christians who found themselves in 'context'.