I know I have an extensive list of posts, but if you had the time to go thru everything you would be able to put together my history.
Thus by observation, experience and what I see in the Bible... I am convinced that it has never been God's intention for every single believer to speak in tongues. Nor does God regard one believer over another based on tongues. Nor will God use one person over another based on tongues.
See, some people on here can not stand me because I believe in the Doctrines of Grace (which some call Calvinism). The thing about that theology that most people dont get is that it teaches that God is sovereign... in other words, He does what He wills. Everytime. And if wants the gospel to go to a people where there is no interpretor... He will be the interpretor. And He will do it thru someone who cant speak the language.
"getting my prayer language"... there is not one single mention of special "prayer languages" in scripture. Thats a man made fantasy.
Approved... let me ask this, do you think that perhaps if your presupposition is that people speak in tongues when they are baptised in the Spirit that that ends up being what you look for? And if so perhaps if you dont see that evidencee then you assume they have not been baptised in the Spirit?In other words, if what you look for is if someone has prayed in tongues... and someone has not, do you assume they havent been baptised in the Spirit? Does my question make sense?I know for some people speaking in tongues is synonomous with baptism in the Spirit.Krispy
Did King David speak in tongues? I am not sure, but I do not remember reading anywhere that he did.
_________________Christiaan“May you so live, that when you stand over your child's dead body, you may never hear a voice coming up from that clay, "Father, your negligence was my destruction! Mother, your prayerlessness was the instrument of my damnation!""Impress these words of Mine on your hearts and minds . . . Teach them to your children, talking about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up." Deuteronomy 11:18-19 - Charles Spurgeon
Mar 16:17 "And these signs will follow THOSE WHO BELIEVE: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;Repent of your idle chatter, Brothers\Sisters, and maybe also from your unbelief - contradicting even the words of our Lord.Again I say, Repent.Joch
by jochbaptist on 2012/3/7 8:16:50Mar 16:17 "And these signs will follow THOSE WHO BELIEVE: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;Repent of your idle chatter, Brothers\Sisters, and maybe also from your unbelief - contradicting even the words of our Lord.Again I say, Repent.Joch___________________Its threads like these that make me just want to give up completely here. To imply or say that only those who speak in tongues have received baptism of the Holy Spirit is so hurtful. I spent months on my knees begging and pleading with GOD, tears streaming down my face until the early morning hours to receive this gift because people just like some here have done made me feel like less of a christian because I did not speak in tongues... why do we do this to one another, why do we say such things to bring heart ache and cause sorrow? Just breaks my heart to read some of the comments. You really have no idea how your words cut and make someone like me feel like a failure and their walk is somehow lacking. mj
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gators52, you cried out:
To be totally honest I am grieved by how christian folk can bludgeon one another just to prove a point. I do not see how you can even go into a prayer closet and have answered prayer... Brothers put this to bed. You have hijacked yet another thread... ya'll act like children. Seriously it is annoying I'm sure to more than just me.
Mar 16:17 "And these signs will follow THOSE WHO BELIEVE: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;
i dont know who that was directed to, but you're not alone in what you wrote. i saw the heading to this thread, and knew, that it would turn into yet another cyber scrum, a TERRIBLE WITNESS.
its your brother neil here, right after i posted to gators52, about what he wrote, i read your heart cry:
Its threads like these that make me just want to give up completely here. To imply or say that only those who speak in tongues have received baptism of the Holy Spirit is so hurtful. I spent months on my knees begging and pleading with GOD, tears streaming down my face until the early morning hours to receive this gift because people just like some here have done made me feel like less of a christian because I did not speak in tongues... why do we do this to one another, why do we say such things to bring heart ache and cause sorrow? Just breaks my heart to read some of the comments. You really have no idea how your words cut and make someone like me feel like a failure and their walk is somehow lacking. mj
Neil... if you want the forum shut down then why are you here posting on it? Just leave if you feel that way.Krispy
