To the original poster:Here is an interesting book on the topic of "tongues:"http://www.amazon.com/They-Speak-Other-Tongues-Sherrill/dp/0800793595/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331072886&sr=8-1It was written by John Sherrill, an author who helped assist in the writing of many classic Christian books. He assisted David Wilkerson with THE CROSS AND THE SWITCHBLADE, Corrie ten Boom with THE HIDING PLACE and Brother Andrew with GOD'S SMUGGLER. John Sherrill was quite skeptical when it came to the various topics and views of modern Pentecostalism. Thus, he takes an interesting approach by documenting the history of the "tongues" phenomenon from the time of Christ through the time he was conducting the research into this book. He interviews many Christian men (including David Wilkerson) as well. The history that is contained within the book (along with the citations) may assist you in finding what you are looking for (pre-20th century anecdotes regarding "speaking in tongues").
_________________-ChrisJeremiah 29:11-13<///><"Are the things you're living for worth Christ dying for?" - epitaph of Leonard Ravenhill"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
And if you knew anything about me or my history since becoming a Christian you would probably not say that to me.
Yet, when someone (like you) thinks they have me figured out... it is then that I become ellusive and coy. I dont want to let you know me, I'd rather enjoy watching you think you do. It's entertaining.
And I'll be totally honest with you, tongues is NOT a sign of someone being more spiritual... and tongues does NOT make a person spiritual.
@ EvangelTam -YOU STATED/ASKED: So can anybody answer the above question? My friend believe that it is only a recent phenomena that is unbiblical and says that tongues ceased after the early church...... If you could help me and link me to books/ websites that would be MOST helpful!I RESPOND; There is a book that I have read that traces historical references to glossolalia (tongues) from the book of Acts to modern times. Very interesting read. I will post the information from Amazon below. The book is titled " The Glossolalia Phenomenon" by Wade Horton.Begin Amazon Review -This book is a must have for those of the Classical Pentecostal position (that speaking in tongues is the initial, physical evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit).The book is edited by the late Wade Horton, former General Overseer of the Church of God (Cleveland, TN). The various authors reflect the traditions of the Church of God and offer different insights into speaking in tongues.The book traces the history, practice, and biblical understanding of speaking in tongues. It also presents a sound doctrine of the person and work of the Holy Spirit.End ReviewHope this is helpful Evangetam. There are many posts on this thread by folks claiming to have a solid Biblical basis for their positions but they are obviously only using 60-70 percent of the actual scriptures. Always let the entirety of God's council be a guide.... not just the 70 percent that agrees with our theology and then bypass the rest.
oops! we're supposed to use a fake name?
Again, I am only going by what you say. If you don't want to be known, dear Lord that is your business brother. We are all coy and elusive, we all hide behind a fake name and none of us really know one another. But we do know one another through what we post.
But let me take a wild guess though. You started out and may have even gone forward to some degree believing in the baptism of the Holy Spirit or may even had experienced it but was burnt about some issues surrounding it. You saw the disorder or nonsensical side of Pentecostalism which turned you off to the whole idea so you went to searching the scriptures to see if any of what you were involved in had any merit. But since you were involved to some degree you hold to some of the things that some people reject. You believe in the gifts of the Spirit but you also cherish the idea of order and you don't want to get out of order and miss what God is doing. You believe that speaking in tongues is possibly for us today but you haven't really found anyone that fits the bible description therefore and so far those that speak in tongues today are in error or at least a vast majority are. Since you were brought back from the dead, you do believe in miracles and have prayed for healing and seen healing in yourself, your family and those around you. In summary, you do believe in the gifts and the power of God but since you don't see the true evidence today, your in doubt that any of it is real.
EvangelTam,onemite posted this link:The Truth About Speaking In Tongues - Zac Poonenhttp://www.cfcindia.com/web/mainpages/articles.php?display=article07I printed it out last night and read it at work; it is a marvelous study on the Holy Spirit, there were a couple points that I disagreed with him on (based on experience) but 99% of it was 'spot on'!! Maybe you could start with your friend there because so much of history is not written and truth be known, he is using the 'time-line' as an excuse anyway. I have a die-hard baptist friend that came to love the Holy Spirit in me when we started praying together and she experienced Him first hand. (The main reason she won't seek after it is her husband's adversity to it). That is why I say to pray together with him instead of these useless time-line discussions that most likely won't go anywhere, he'll just dig his heals in on another topic. Let him experience the supernatural power of God firsthand and he will not be able to gainsay nor resist Him!! (Because when we do that, it's up to God not us)God bless you brother!!Lisa
_________________"I was seized by the power of a great affection." ~ Brennan ManningsSince He looked upon me, my heart is not my own. He hath run away to heaven with it. ~ Samuel Rutherford
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Let me also throw this into the discussion-In scripture there are clearly THREE DIFFERENT AND DISTINCT kinds, styles, purposes, or gifts of tongues. They are very different in application, purpose, and manifestation. It is all clearly in scripture but very, very , very rarely ever noticed as SO MUCH of what people hold to on this topic is based on preconceived ideas.When you read about "tongues" in scripture you must determine which of the three kinds it is to actually understand what is being taught. If not you will come to the conclusion that scripture actually contradicts itself. Of course scripture does not contradict itself.... but if all "tongues" were the same... as many believe... then it does contradict itself. Much of the misunderstanding is because most all people think there is only one type of "tongues" and thereby misapply an interpretation to a type of tongue that does not apply to it.I know that will cause many to say, "What?!?!" However, it is all clearly in scripture... but not just sitting on the top. It requires some study, digging, and application. If due diligence is done then all the pieces of that puzzle snap together and the confusion over the subject evaporates.Blessings!
Solomon... can you expound on that?Krispy
