JIG, you said that you wanted bible verses to show the eternal sonship of Christ. Old Joe suggested you look at Colossians ch 1:12 -19, here it is.
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
In whom do we have redemption? In his dear Son. Who is the image of the invisible God? His dear Son. By whom were all things created? By his dear Son. Who is before all things? His dear Son.
The Hebrews epistle says the same:
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
In my last posting, I said that our eternal salvation in Him depends on this. Scripture:
Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
How could we be adopted as children from the foundation of the world if He, the firstborn from the dead, was not from the beginning the Son?
As said before, John' gospel and letters make this all very clear. I mentioned before John ch 1: verses 14 &18. Here is the beginning of his first letter.
1Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) 1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
The eternal life WAS with the Father, and has been manifested to us in the Son. Our fellowship by the Holy Spirit is eternally with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ.
JIG, this is a serious matter to understand, and levity and joking are not appropriate.
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