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a-servant
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mmmmhhh......that sounds like 'almost right' to me. Sure, UN and blue helmets, a no-brainer, see Libya. You almost cannot trace back where the original command comes from anymore. But i don't buy the Phoenix saga. I would call that a well placed motivational mind piece to keep them believing the fable which in reality is a lie. Just like the Euopean royals saga of "that Jesus that did not really die but married Mary Magdalene"

Or in other words the outcome will be different entirely, and that simply because God has a different motivation in the whole process concerning the parties involved. It's better to read the prophets over and over and watch scripture prophecy and how it pans out in regard to Judah.

I think we're actually already a step further ahead in what you still see as coming soon (soul trafficking). It only has a very unexpected pleasant appearance, that's why we do not always explicitly notice it (anymore - as a result of the general brainwashing process) as being evil. That's part of the actual mystery and diversity of the 4th beast. That is what they're actually really good at : Special effects, creating delusions and rewriting reality. Yes, agree with who's riding who, but this is also camouflaged and we cannot be entirely certain who exactly pulls the strings. Except, in case you really dig deep and deeper it somehow looks like that many if not most roads lead to Rome and London. The most complex things that appear to be entirely different in broad day light come from there and not Wash DC, so i wouldn't be surprised if these two supply the candidates for the final power sharing delusion that takes over Jerusalem.

 2012/1/28 5:02Profile









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Well, Rome does already own quite a bit of Jerusalem and Mr. Peres helped that along. I had that article in my computer that died. And the head of The Quartet did become Catholic before taking that headship role. Surely not discounting all of that. It's just that there are over 100 perimeters from Scripture that describe this last days Babylon and only one city fits them all.

The Phoenix is not Bible prophecy, that's for sure. The phoenix bird is seen in Nazi Germany and in some of our own seals and such. It was just written by those that plan on ruling from Jerusalem, that the U.S. would be brought to her knees economically and otherwise in order to make her go along with their world order, which they planned from the beginning, but not "utterly destroyed forever and ever as GOD will allow at the very end.

Reading the 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets and then the 7 Vials, I see we have a way to go - but once that man of sin is revealed, there is that 3 1/2 yr prophecy. We know that birth pains begin slow and increase in their timing and He did say that He'd shorten those days - also - lest no flesh survive - so I'm not ruling out a quickening of the culmination of all things. Even so, Come, LORD Jesus!

The connection of all financial control is shown by even secular economists as between London and New York.
Those who 'pull the strings' as you say, are the same elite families that were around since long before WWI - the Word calls them the rich men of the earth. Most not living in the U.S.. We're/the US is just going along for the ride and doing their biddings, because they own the wealth of the world. They need this next war and though Albert Pike is not the father of it all - the plan being very many hundreds of yrs old - he did lay out the plan for the 3 world wars that would finally bring about their new world order to America and world wide.
If one reads Ezekiel 37 Before they go on to read 38-39, they'd see that this is the final war at His Coming.
Some are saying this next war is 'that' war and that is impossible because the antiChrist has not been revealed and when he is - there's that 3 1/2 yr reign yet to face.
I only bring up the Ezekiel war because some are getting Very Excited about the potential war with Russia, thinking The LORD will return 'with' this war. That's dangerous, seeing how the AC hasn't been revealed as yet. {eta} Counterfeiting O.T. prophecy in order to deceive both Jews and Christians, when that man of sin comes out from this war.

I am Very glad you brought up Daniel 8. Bless you!

Thanks much for chatting with me.
Longing for His appearing or going Home, which ever comes first and no matter how it happens - Amen!

 2012/1/28 6:37
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We went off from the financial aspect of the grand delusion to try to decipher it all. Right now something I can know for sure is that any paper asset and bank related contract is in danger of becoming worthless this year, that's the most conservative estimate.

That "they will take us to war" is the next thing to look out for, I listened to a radio file last week to learn that all these wars and "arab uprisings" already had been planned and decided on many years ago and it was a known fact among top military insiders. Only misunderstood as a "conspiracy theory" by the less discerning. So let's see if they can pull it off, and tople Damascus and Teheran also in like manner without getting burned. But somehow i doubt it, just because i never really paid attention to the word "Medes" in the prophets before, but now discovered they play such a dominant role in all of them.

Any way you slice it you almost can count the years now. I'm not sure how to bring in Ezekiel and the strategies and objectives of Pike's guiding spirit into the picture. What does it take to pull off the great counterfeit that makes everyone believe the end of the world is here?

In that line of thinking, did you ever consider the possible sinister meaning of the word "pretrib rapture" when you consider the originating roots of it, planted by a mind that thinks strategically forward to maximize that great counterfeit? Is Pike's camp hinting at a great departure of souls as in a great war that will make the remaining people so desolate as to question their faith and even consider the "pure doctrine of the light bearer"? Now that is a loaded but real question for any AOG pastor that is involved in that imported Jesuit teaching of pretrib land.

 2012/1/28 22:17Profile









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And there followed another angel, saying,

"Babylon is fallen!, is fallen!",

... "that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

"The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

"And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."

I see Babylon as that ancient worship system that began with the first Caesar, Nimrod, and morphed in the replica symbolic, THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH; Same "sacred" days innumerable, same gods and goddesses, same priests and priestesses.....corresponding to the 1300 satanic temples of Rome in the days of Paul the Apostle.

We are seeing the collapse of this system today, financial and spiritual, in Europe and America, but even there, in Babylon, which transcends geography, there is a freedom to worship other gods, and exercise different faiths.

But, there is another worship system coming, that will not allow any other god to be worshipped. It is the system of the Beast! and I think that that Beast is none other than Allah; the god of fortresses.

"Is Pike's camp hinting at a great departure of souls as in a great war that will make the remaining people so desolate as to question their faith and even consider the "pure doctrine of the light bearer"? "...a-servant

Answer: "The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.

"The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.

"The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant."

"Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left." ISAIAH 24.

If Pike hinted at this time, I must agree with him. This is coming soon, and the anti-Christ will soon, very soon reveal himself. The curse that devours the Earth is Sharia/Islam, that commands a worship of one, and only one god with a penalty of death....and we have not yet seen the beginning of the great falling away yet.

Wait until your starving, with your children, and the only way you can buy bread or milk is to bow down and confess that Allah is Lord, and consent to his tattoo on your hand, or between your eyes...[ like the Hindi ].

Never forget, this is a test, trial SENT BY GOD, to try those who dwell upon the Earth, to determine who you really love. God is in control, and it is HE who ordained the anti-Christ, and gave him his authority.

I have seen the invasion of America by invading armies, and an air war that we lose, in visions. They come to occupy. I am not sure the about melding of socialism and the New age into this, and it does not seem to be instant, and must provide sanctuary here and there, for there will be a remnant, filled with glory and power, all throughout this dark night.

 2012/1/29 15:27









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Hi a-servant, Amen to your "planned and decided on many years ago and known among top military" [some dead because of knowing].
Pike's 'vision' is posted in the Revival section of the forum. The letter that was posted in part was catalogued in the British Museum Library, London, England. Pike was one of the most renowned Masons and still is, for what he spoke and left behind in his books, etc., though again, he surely wasn't the father of the plan for world governance.
Basically, he said what others globalists have said before and since. That pitting the three monotheistic religions against one another would serve many of their endgame purposes.

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Any way you slice it you almost can count the years now. I'm not sure how to bring in Ezekiel and the strategies and objectives of Pike's guiding spirit into the picture. What does it take to pull off the great counterfeit that makes everyone believe the end of the world is here?



The purpose of this would be to rid the world of those that won't go along with a United Religion, as the three monotheistic religions will not.
Iran is one of the last 4 sovereign nations.
Iran has oil, plus, that there may be a struggle for. The ten toes don't mix all that well. We, just for one, have sent two carrier fleets Plus to those waters and more on the way.
There's a domino affect that will affect the entire world from this war, that is strategic to setting up the one world governance and push us into the digital ecomonic system, etc. Multi-faceted plan but the end & main goal is to set up their christ in Jerusalem.




Brother, I believe GOD works in 'seasons'. There was a time when I felt that certain beliefs and current events should be discussed and even at length. There's a thread about "Bees" from the past, as an example of the things we've already discussed here yrs back that I don't feel to bring up again and lots of other issues of that nature.
I've felt for this last year, that only those beliefs that would risk someone's faith are worth contending for.

Regarding other's eschatology - this verse is what I feel is what He has been saying to me personally ... 2Ti 2:19 "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal,
**The Lord knoweth them that are His.**
And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

I've watched over the last 10 yrs, that many that are pre-trib are talking about persecution coming and the mark of the beast. Those that are His, are watching. They're in the palm of His Hand. When things begin to happen, as written, the pan-trib or whatever-trib folks will know what to do and not do.

There are others that are not watching as yet - those that put a historical or spiritualized spin on the Revelation ... but I surely would never say that they are not His. I'm very close with far too many that I know are His Saints. Only when the time comes of having to make certain choices of whether we're able to 'buy or sell', will we know. Even those that are betraying one another to death presently, still have a chance to repent - Thank GOD!

If the Word is more literal than some think - we'll surely know soon enough, and Bless GOD for the Unity that will come to His Own, because of the persecution they are under-going and will go through, by the counterfeit church that loves the beast & their own lives and not the Savior and His Bride.


GOD Bless you, Brother. Thank you for your posts.

 2012/1/29 20:48









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Rev 2:9-11 I know thy works, and tribulation, and 'poverty', (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of Life. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Rev 3:7-9 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith He that is holy, He that is true, He that hath the key of David, He that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept My Word, and hast not denied My Name. Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


Somewhere between 1894 and the turn of the century, my Jewish great-grandparents fled Russia with their children to an Italian speaking city. They had 10 children and for some reason, sailed their two older children to New York. My grandmother and her two-yr older brother were to meet their uncle at the port - but once they landed, my grandmother lost her brother and never found him nor her uncle that was to take her in. She was sent to Ellis Island and a Jewish family took her in to work for them. About 4 yrs later, she met my Italian grandfather and kept it all a secret [for the most part] that she was a Russian Jew. My Aunt would tell me that she was - but my father would deny it. My grandmother raised me from 3 yrs old to 13. She would rattle off different languages at times, that I later learned as I grew that they were Russian, Yiddish, Hebrew, and she spoke fluent Italian and English. She was a genius, but her only accomplishments were being a housekeeper, a help to my grandfather's tailor shop in New York and raising children and grandchildren.
Her story remained basically a secret and we were only given a more detailed history when she was 85. I wasn't present when she gave her story to two family members, unfortunately.

When I was first saved, one of the wonders of knowing that something had happened to me was when I woke one morning shortly after my salvation with an overwhelming love for the Jewish people and this was before I had any idea that my father's mother was Jewish.
Over the yrs, and not because of my grandmother - my love and burden over the remnant of Israel and Jerusalem has only grown to an extremely heavy burden. The church I've recently began to visit is not Messianic, but they do have the Israeli flag up front with the Christian flag and the few that are Jewish by birth have one Friday evening a month where we can celebrate Sabbath and every Passover, explaining the emblems as they point to Christ - but the church itself meets on Sundays.
I only felt that I needed to share that small piece of background and those verses from Revelation in order to go on with what I've read and heard since 1980, and not by choice.

There are two very important "lines in the sand" that Christians need to make. Actually, I'd say that we need to carve out canyons in the sand - totally unmovable resolves. #1 is to never allow a lie to come to our minds and out of our lips. Even when one needs to protect the innocent, praying to GOD for the words that the Holy Spirit will give without the mind concocting any stories.
#2 is to resolve that we'll never allow ourselves to be 'bought' - regardless of what it will cost us in resisting - even our lives, we much maintain that resolve in our hearts and minds, "I cannot be bought!"

Back to the topic of this thread ... It's impossible to discuss global-economics [also wars and the cause of the anti-Jew movements] without knowledge of the history of "the house of Rothschild". That history would start around 1740's with Mayer Amschel Bauer born in Frankfurt Germany to a money lender and who in 1760 changed his last name to Rothschild.
From there we may see other family names that we might recognize, that branch off or that work toward the same goal or same main family.
The rich men of the earth is not a conspiracy theory and the blood of many of our ancestors cries out to the truth of it, as does the blood of the martyrs - past, present and future - which would/should make "money" seem extremely trivial in the scheme of things - to us.

 2012/1/30 13:02
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Here ia an article concerning the "Money Changers". These are the current den of thieves.



Federal Reserve: Ten Things That Every American Should Know About The Fed (UUP, C, BAC, JPM, GS, MS, WFC)
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Michael Snyder: What would happen if the Federal Reserve was shut down permanently? That is a question that CNBC asked recently, but unfortunately most Americans don’t really think about the Fed much. Most Americans are content with believing that the Federal Reserve is just another stuffy government agency that sets our interest rates and that is watching out for the best interests of the American people. But that is not the case at all. The truth is that the Federal Reserve is a private banking cartel that has been designed to systematically destroy the value of our currency, drain the wealth of the American public and enslave the federal government to perpetually expanding debt. During this election year, the economy is the number one issue that voters are concerned about. But instead of endlessly blaming both political parties, the truth is that most of the blame should be placed at the feet of the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve has more power over the performance of the U.S. economy than anyone else does. The Federal Reserve controls the money supply, the Federal Reserve sets the interest rates and the Federal Reserve hands out bailouts to the big banks that absolutely dwarf anything that Congress ever did. If the American people are ever going to learn what is really going on with our economy, then it is absolutely imperative that they get educated about the Federal Reserve.

The following are 10 things that every American should know about the Federal Reserve….

#1 The Federal Reserve System Is A Privately Owned Banking Cartel

The Federal Reserve is not a government agency.

The truth is that it is a privately owned central bank. It is owned by the banks that are members of the Federal Reserve system. We do not know how much of the system each bank owns, because that has never been disclosed to the American people.

The Federal Reserve openly admits that it is privately owned. When it was defending itself against a Bloomberg request for information under the Freedom of Information Act, the Federal Reserve stated unequivocally in court that it was “not an agency” of the federal government and therefore not subject to the Freedom of Information Act.

In fact, if you want to find out that the Federal Reserve system is owned by the member banks, all you have to do is go to the Federal Reserve website….

The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by Congress as the operating arms of the nation’s central banking system, are organized much like private corporations–possibly leading to some confusion about “ownership.” For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.

Foreign governments and foreign banks do own significant ownership interests in the member banks that own the Federal Reserve system. So it would be accurate to say that the Federal Reserve is partially foreign-owned.

But until the exact ownership shares of the Federal Reserve are revealed, we will never know to what extent the Fed is foreign-owned.

#2 The Federal Reserve System Is A Perpetual Debt Machine

As long as the Federal Reserve System exists, U.S. government debt will continue to go up and up and up.

This runs contrary to the conventional wisdom that Democrats and Republicans would have us believe, but unfortunately it is true.

The way our system works, whenever more money is created more debt is created as well.

For example, whenever the U.S. government wants to spend more money than it takes in (which happens constantly), it has to go ask the Federal Reserve for it. The federal government gives U.S. Treasury bonds to the Federal Reserve, and the Federal Reserve gives the U.S. government “Federal Reserve Notes” in return. Usually this is just done electronically.

So where does the Federal Reserve get the Federal Reserve Notes?

It just creates them out of thin air.

Wouldn’t you like to be able to create money out of thin air?

Instead of issuing money directly, the U.S. government lets the Federal Reserve create it out of thin air and then the U.S. government borrows it.

Talk about stupid.

When this new debt is created, the amount of interest that the U.S. government will eventually pay on that debt is not also created.

So where will that money come from?

Well, eventually the U.S. government will have to go back to the Federal Reserve to get even more money to finance the ever expanding debt that it has gotten itself trapped into.

It is a debt spiral that is designed to go on perpetually.

You see, the reality is that the money supply is designed to constantly expand under the Federal Reserve system. That is why we have all become accustomed to thinking of inflation as “normal”.

So what does the Federal Reserve do with the U.S. Treasury bonds that it gets from the U.S. government?

Well, it sells them off to others. There are lots of people out there that have made a ton of money by holding U.S. government debt.

In fiscal 2011, the U.S. government paid out 454 billion dollars just in interest on the national debt.

That is 454 billion dollars that was taken out of our pockets and put into the pockets of wealthy individuals and foreign governments around the globe.

The truth is that our current debt-based monetary system was designed by greedy bankers that wanted to make enormous profits by using the Federal Reserve as a tool to create money out of thin air and lend it to the U.S. government at interest.

And that plan is working quite well.

Most Americans today don’t understand how any of this works, but many prominent Americans in the past did understand it.

For example, Thomas Edison was once quoted in the New York Times as saying the following….

That is to say, under the old way any time we wish to add to the national wealth we are compelled to add to the national debt.

Now, that is what Henry Ford wants to prevent. He thinks it is stupid, and so do I, that for the loan of $30,000,000 of their own money the people of the United States should be compelled to pay $66,000,000 — that is what it amounts to, with interest. People who will not turn a shovelful of dirt nor contribute a pound of material will collect more money from the United States than will the people who supply the material and do the work. That is the terrible thing about interest. In all our great bond issues the interest is always greater than the principal. All of the great public works cost more than twice the actual cost, on that account. Under the present system of doing business we simply add 120 to 150 per cent, to the stated cost.

But here is the point: If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good.

We should have listened to men like Edison and Ford.

But we didn’t.

And so we pay the price.

On July 1, 1914 (a few months after the Fed was created) the U.S. national debt was 2.9 billion dollars.

Today, it is more than more than 5000 times larger.

Yes, the perpetual debt machine is working quite well, and most Americans do not even realize what is happening.

#3 The Federal Reserve Has Destroyed More Than 96% Of The Value Of The U.S. Dollar

Did you know that the U.S. dollar has lost 96.2 percent of its value since 1900? Of course almost all of that decline has happened since the Federal Reserve was created in 1913.

Because the money supply is designed to expand constantly, it is guaranteed that all of our dollars will constantly lose value. [Related: Powershares Dollar Bullish ETF (NYSEArca:UUP), Powershares Bearish ETF (NYSEArca:UDN)]

Inflation is a “hidden tax” that continually robs us all of our wealth. The Federal Reserve always says that it is “committed” to controlling inflation, but that never seems to work out so well.

And current Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke says that it is actually a good thing to have a little bit of inflation. He plans to try to keep the inflation rate at about 2 percent in the coming years.

So what is so bad about 2 percent? That doesn’t sound so bad, does it?

Well, just consider the following excerpt from a recent Forbes article….

The Federal Reserve Open Market Committee (FOMC) has made it official: After its latest two day meeting, it announced its goal to devalue the dollar by 33% over the next 20 years. The debauch of the dollar will be even greater if the Fed exceeds its goal of a 2 percent per year increase in the price level.

#4 The Federal Reserve Can Bail Out Whoever It Wants To With No Accountability

The American people got so upset about the bailouts that Congress gave to the Wall Street banks and to the big automakers, but did you know that the biggest bailouts of all were given out by the Federal Reserve?

Thanks to a very limited audit of the Federal Reserve that Congress approved a while back, we learned that the Fed made trillions of dollars in secret bailout loans to the big Wall Street banks during the last financial crisis. They even secretly loaned out hundreds of billions of dollars to foreign banks.

According to the results of the limited Fed audit mentioned above, a total of $16.1 trillion in secret loans were made by the Federal Reserve between December 1, 2007 and July 21, 2010.

The following is a list of loan recipients that was taken directly from page 131 of the audit report….

Citigroup (NYSE:C) – $2.513 trillion
Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MS) - $2.041 trillion
Merrill Lynch - $1.949 trillion
Bank of America (NYSE:BAC) – $1.344 trillion
Barclays PLC (NYSE:BCS) – $868 billion
Bear Sterns – $853 billion
Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS) – $814 billion
Royal Bank of Scotland (NYSE:RBS) – $541 billion
JP Morgan Chase (NYSE:JPM) – $391 billion
Deutsche Bank (NYSE:DB) - $354 billion
UBS (NYSE:UBS) – $287 billion
Credit Suisse (NYSE:CS) – $262 billion
Lehman Brothers – $183 billion
Bank of Scotland – $181 billion
BNP Paribas – $175 billion
Wells Fargo (NYSE:WFC) – $159 billion
Dexia – $159 billion
Wachovia – $142 billion
Dresdner Bank – $135 billion
Societe Generale – $124 billion
“All Other Borrowers” – $2.639 trillion

So why haven’t we heard more about this?

This is scandalous.

In addition, it turns out that the Fed paid enormous sums of money to the big Wall Street banks to help “administer” these nearly interest-free loans….

Not only did the Federal Reserve give 16.1 trillion dollars in nearly interest-free loans to the “too big to fail” banks, the Fed also paid them over 600 million dollars to help run the emergency lending program. According to the GAO, the Federal Reserve shelled out an astounding $659.4 million in “fees” to the very financial institutions which caused the financial crisis in the first place.

Does reading that make you angry?

It should.

#5 The Federal Reserve Is Paying Banks Not To Lend Money

Did you know that the Federal Reserve is actually paying banks not to make loans?

It is true.

Section 128 of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 allows the Federal Reserve to pay interest on “excess reserves” that U.S. banks park at the Fed.

So the banks can just send their cash to the Fed and watch the money come rolling in risk-free.

So are many banks taking advantage of this?

You tell me. Just check out the chart below. The amount of “excess reserves” parked at the Fed has gone from nearly nothing to about 1.5 trillion dollars since 2008….



But shouldn’t the banks be lending the money to us so that we can start businesses and buy homes?

You would think that is how it is supposed to work.

Unfortunately, the Federal Reserve is not working for us.

The Federal Reserve is working for the big banks.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea what is going on.

Another example of this is the government debt carry trade.

Here is how it works. The Federal Reserve lends gigantic piles of nearly interest-free cash to the big Wall Street banks, and in turn those banks use the money to buy up huge amounts of government debt. Since the return on government debt is higher, the banks are able to make large profits very easily and with very little risk.

This scam was also explained in a recent article in the Guardian….

Consider this: we pretend that banks are private businesses that should be allowed to run their own affairs. But they are the biggest scroungers of public money of our time. Banks are lent vast sums of money by central banks at near-zero interest. They lend that money to us or back to the government at higher rates and rake in the difference by the billion. They don’t even have to make clever investments to make huge profits.

That is a pretty good little scam they have got going, wouldn’t you say?

#6 The Federal Reserve Creates Artificial Economic Bubbles That Are Extremely Damaging

By allowing a centralized authority such as the Federal Reserve to dictate interest rates, it creates an environment where financial bubbles can be created very easily.

Over the past several decades, we have seen bubble after bubble. Most of these have been the result of the Federal Reserve keeping interest rates artificially low. If the free market had been setting interest rates all this time, things would have never gotten so far out of hand.

For example, the housing crash would have never been so horrific if the Federal Reserve had not created such ideal conditions for a housing bubble in the first place. But we allow the Fed to continue to make the same mistakes.

Right now, the Federal Reserve continues to set interest rates much, much lower than they should be. This is causing a tremendous misallocation of economic resources, and there will be massive consequences for that down the line.

#7 The Federal Reserve System Is Dominated By The Big Wall Street Banks

Even since it was created, the Federal Reserve system has been dominated by the big Wall Street banks.

The following is from a previous article that I did about the Fed….

The New York representative is the only permanent member of the Federal Open Market Committee, while other regional banks rotate in 2 and 3 year intervals. The former head of the New York Fed, Timothy Geithner, is now U.S. Treasury Secretary. The truth is that the Federal Reserve Bank of New York has always been the most important of the regional Fed banks by far, and in turn the Federal Reserve Bank of New York has always been dominated by Wall Street and the major New York banks.

#8 It Is Not An Accident That We Saw The Personal Income Tax And The Federal Reserve System Both Come Into Existence In 1913

On February 3rd, 1913 the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified. Later that year, the United States Revenue Act of 1913 imposed a personal income tax on the American people and we have had one ever since.

Without a personal income tax, it is hard to have a central bank. It takes a lot of money to finance all of the government debt that a central banking system creates.

It is no accident that the 16th Amendment was ratified in 1913 and the Federal Reserve system was also created in 1913.

They have a symbiotic relationship and they are designed to work together.

We could fill Congress with people that are committed to ending this oppressive system, but so far we have chosen not to do that.

So our children and our grandchildren will face a lifetime of debt slavery because of us.

I am sure they will be thankful for that.

#9 The Current Federal Reserve Chairman, Ben Bernanke, Has A Nightmarish Track Record Of Incompetence

The mainstream media portrays Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke as a brilliant economist, but is that really the case?


The following is an extended excerpt from an article that I published previously….

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In 2005, Bernanke said that we shouldn’t worry because housing prices had never declined on a nationwide basis before and he said that he believed that the U.S. would continue to experience close to “full employment”….

“We’ve never had a decline in house prices on a nationwide basis. So, what I think what is more likely is that house prices will slow, maybe stabilize, might slow consumption spending a bit. I don’t think it’s gonna drive the economy too far from its full employment path, though.”

In 2005, Bernanke also said that he believed that derivatives were perfectly safe and posed no danger to financial markets….

“With respect to their safety, derivatives, for the most part, are traded among very sophisticated financial institutions and individuals who have considerable incentive to understand them and to use them properly.”

In 2006, Bernanke said that housing prices would probably keep rising….

“Housing markets are cooling a bit. Our expectation is that the decline in activity or the slowing in activity will be moderate, that house prices will probably continue to rise.”

In 2007, Bernanke insisted that there was not a problem with subprime mortgages….

“At this juncture, however, the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained. In particular, mortgages to prime borrowers and fixed-rate mortgages to all classes of borrowers continue to perform well, with low rates of delinquency.”

In 2008, Bernanke said that a recession was not coming….

“The Federal Reserve is not currently forecasting a recession.”

A few months before Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac collapsed, Bernanke insisted that they were totally secure….

“The GSEs are adequately capitalized. They are in no danger of failing.”

For many more examples that demonstrate the absolutely nightmarish track record of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, please see the following articles….

*”Say What? 30 Ben Bernanke Quotes That Are So Stupid That You Won’t Know Whether To Laugh Or Cry”

*”Is Ben Bernanke A Liar, A Lunatic Or Is He Just Completely And Totally Incompetent?”

But after being wrong over and over and over, Barack Obama still nominated Ben Bernanke for another term as Chairman of the Fed.

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#10 The Federal Reserve Has Become Way Too Powerful

The Federal Reserve is the most undemocratic institution in America.

The Federal Reserve has become so powerful that it is now known as “the fourth branch of government”, but there are less checks and balances on the Fed than there are on the other three branches.

The Federal Reserve runs the U.S. economy but it is not accountable to the American people. We can’t vote those that run the Fed out of office if we do not like what they do.

Yes, the president appoints those that run the Fed, but he also knows that if he does not tread lightly he won’t get the money from the big Wall Street banks that he needs for his next election.

Thankfully, there are a few members of Congress that are complaining about how much power the Fed has. For example, Ron Paul once told MSNBC that he believes that the Federal Reserve is now actually more powerful than Congress…..

“The regulations should be on the Federal Reserve. We should have transparency of the Federal Reserve. They can create trillions of dollars to bail out their friends, and we don’t even have any transparency of this. They’re more powerful than the Congress.”

As members of Congress such as Ron Paul have started to shed some light on the activities of the Federal Reserve, that has caused many in the mainstream media to come to the defense of the Fed.

For example, a recent CNBC article entitled “If The Federal Reserve Is Abolished, What Then?” makes it sound like there is absolutely no other rational alternative to having the Federal Reserve run our economy.

But this is not what our founders intended.

The founders did not intend for a private banking cartel to issue our money and set our interest rates for us.

According to Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. Congress has been given the responsibility to “coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures”.

So why is the Federal Reserve doing it?

But the CNBC article mentioned above makes it sound like the sky would fall if control of the currency was handed back over to the American people.

At one point, the article asks the following question….

“How would the U.S. economy then function? Something has to take its place, right?”

No, the truth is that we don’t need anyone to “manage” our economy.

The U.S. Treasury could be in charge of issuing our currency and the free market could set our interest rates.

We don’t need to have a centrally-planned economy.

We aren’t China.

And it goes against everything that our founders believed to be running up so much government debt.

For example, Thomas Jefferson once declared that if he could add just one more amendment to the U.S. Constitution it would be a ban on all government borrowing….

I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government to the genuine principles of its Constitution; I mean an additional article, taking from the federal government the power of borrowing.

Oh, how things would have been different if we had only listened to Thomas Jefferson.

Please share this article with as many people as you can. These are things that every American should know about the Federal Reserve, and we need to educate the American people about the Fed while there is still time.

Written By Michael Snyder From The Economic Collapse

Michael has an undergraduate degree in Commerce from the University of Virginia and a law degree from the University of Florida law school. He also has an LLM from the University of Florida law school. Michael has worked for some of the largest law firms in Washington D.C., but now is mostly focus on trying to make a difference in the world.


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Jeff Marshalek

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a-servant wrote:

"Isaiah 23:8 Who hath taken this counsel against Tyre, the crowning city, whose merchants are princes, whose traffickers are the honourable of the earth? The LORD of hosts hath purposed it, to stain the pride of all glory, and to bring into contempt all the honourable of the earth. Pass through thy land as a river, O daughter of Tarshish: there is no more strength. He stretched out his hand over the sea, he shook the kingdoms: the LORD hath given a commandment against the merchant city, to destroy the strong holds thereof.

He comes also to 2014 by some currency agreement that came into effect 68 years ago, and will be 70 years old in 2014.
What he ties in with "Isaiah 23:17 And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the LORD will visit Tyre,"

Not sure about that, however he wrote that from the land of Chittim no less ( Isaiah : "from the land of Chittim it is revealed to them." )"



This has happened over and over again in various generations...



Isa 23:15 Now it shall come to pass in that day that Tyre will be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king. At the end of seventy years it will happen to Tyre as [in] the song of the harlot:

Isa 23:16 "Take a harp, go about the city, You forgotten harlot; Make sweet melody, sing many songs, That you may be remembered."

Isa 23:17 And it shall be, at the end of seventy years, that the LORD will deal with Tyre. She will return to her hire, and commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world on the face of the earth.



The harlot has been allowed to prosper in many generations. Judgement follows where the money changer is removed so that justice might follow. Where a generation might experience the ways of the Lord more fully. The money changer system is replaced by the Lord's system...


Eze 45:9 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "Enough, O princes of Israel! Remove violence and plundering, execute justice and righteousness, and stop dispossessing My people," says the Lord GOD.

Eze 45:10 "You shall have honest scales, an honest ephah, and an honest bath.

Eze 45:11 "The ephah and the bath shall be of the same measure, so that the bath contains one-tenth of a homer, and the ephah one-tenth of a homer; their measure shall be according to the homer.

Eze 45:12 "The shekel [shall be] twenty gerahs; twenty shekels, twenty-five shekels, [and] fifteen shekels shall be your mina.

Eze 45:13 "This [is] the offering which you shall offer: you shall give one-sixth of an ephah from a homer of wheat, and one-sixth of an ephah from a homer of barley.

Eze 45:14 "The ordinance concerning oil, the bath of oil, [is] one-tenth of a bath from a kor. [A kor is] a homer



Do you see the difference between these two systems?


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Jesus-is-God wrote:

"The purpose of this would be to rid the world of those that won't go along with a United Religion,"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oe6HUgrRlQ&feature=player_detailpage

Please reflect on this statement made by this man..


It is necessary that Scripture be replaced with culture.


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"Do you see the difference between these two systems?"

Yes, i think the difference is clear, i had a time i was sending out my own invoices and am a bit familiar with the standards and system dynamics.

I also have something merchant related: What is the difference between the world's merchants and Babylon's merchants?

Revelation 18:23  .... for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

This is talking about Babylon's merchants. They are called "the great men of the earth" and we learn that they have great influence on other nations, to the degree of having the ability to deceive them.

While the 'merchants of the world' will stand afar to see Babylon fall, that means Babylon falls first, while the world watches and weeps. What is their relationship with the merchants of Babylon?

Revelation 18:15  The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

They have been made rich by her. Now if you can think business, what we're looking for are the most influential global corporations that have the most international affiliates.

For people that don't know for a fact who the most influential great merchants of the world are that have such an impact on other nations, get a Forbes magazine and see their lists of top 400 or 500 global companies of the world. Have a look which corporations dominate the global markets, have the largest affiliate bases and spend the most on advertising. All these numbers are also available online for someone that knows how to locate makets, affiliate, and advertising data.

That little research alone should give it away. There are no obstacles to know the truth for the ones that really believe the words in the Bible, and follow the hints that allow anyone to make a positive identification.

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