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PaulWest
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With that much time on your hands I see why you had the deep insight.Maybe your name should be eagle eye!



Friend, leave the sarcasm at the door. The truth is, your first "subject" in these forums was public plea for money to be sent to Inger Katz. This is an embarassment to the Katz family, and it dishonors Art. It was posted without discretion, without wisdom (as your last two posts also indicate), and it went absolutely nowhere and died quickly for a reason. And now you would show us all your wit...and we are still not impressed.

Banjoe, we ask that you pray before posting. This site is not a "preacher hall of fame"; it is a collection of outstanding resources for God's children to grow by and fellowship, but contention will not be tolerated.

If you have further questions or concerns, contact one of us privately.

Thank you,

Paul


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Paul Frederick West

 2008/5/2 20:35Profile
Banjoe
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 2008/5/2 21:34Profile
crsschk
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 Re: Patience

Banjoe,

You are making quite a few assumptions for someone new to their surroundings. Only brought up your previous post because it seemed duplicitous, in the one you decry the excess and here you defend seemingly.

I think you also have very little understanding of those that contribute here and with some patience and searching through the site you might have an altogether different perspective.

It is wonderful that you were able to be with both Inga and Art as you described and I hope that many will pray for Inga, surely not an easy thing to disclose as you mentioned. There are many here that love dear Art and all that he brought to us before he went home, he unashamedly would be granted a high status if this were merely a preachers hall of fame.

I also believe he would be denouncing this latest insurrection as fleshly, spurious and plastic.

Dig in to the site, there is a wealth of resources from preachers and writers and all walks in-between.


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Mike Balog

 2008/5/2 22:02Profile
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In my understanding of sin, human nature, it is one thing to sin in a moment of weakness and quite another to work in 'fulfilling' a sinful desire which is what I would understand the problem to be with Bob Jones, et al. A person who sins in a moment of weakness will quickly repent and do what needs to be done to repair the damage done.

My thoughts..

ginnyrose


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Sandra Miller

 2008/5/2 22:06Profile
PaulWest
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It was with love and concern for a good woman.Please do not confuse your opinion with facts.Of course it died quickly because there was nothing to discuss.


If your plea for finances was birthed out of love for Inga Katz, you would not have dropped her name like you did, requesting money. Certainly not publically. It was an embarassment, an awkward moment, and it fizzled out because the authority of God was not behind it.
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I wonder how many of you have viewed pornography on the same computer you view this site?


Probably quite a few, yet the occasions are more than likely washed in the blood, confessed, repented of and forsaken. Your purpose in voicing such an allegation has no absolutely bearing on the spirit you've come into these forums with. [i]That is the real issue.[/i] The suspicion you bring against others concerning this may, in fact, reveal something of like passion hiding in your own backyard.


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Paul Frederick West

 2008/5/2 22:10Profile
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JESUS, SEND REVIVAL! WE ARE A HUNGRY AND DESPERATE PEOPLE!


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Jeff

 2008/5/2 22:30Profile
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 2008/5/2 22:39Profile
PaulWest
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Banjoe,

Being full of blemishes and imperfect before God and a "screw up" does not give us the liberty to post sarcastically and make blanket assumptions which we are not able to qualify. But I do understand your concerns, friend, because I too am the king of failures. However, a man can be full of failure and yet humble and discerning. It is by failure that humility is learnt. I was wrong to judge your love for Art's wife, please forgive me.

If all you took from my entire blog was that I have no peace and I just want to be heard...well, I am very sorry for this. See - I told you I was the king of failures.

The Lord bless your stay here,

Brother Paul


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Paul Frederick West

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 2008/5/2 23:02Profile
PaulWest
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Brethren,

It is really amazing what even the [i]discussions[/i] revolving around what is false can do to us as a body. I have a few Brownsville VHS tapes with Steve Hill and Lindel Cooley and Dr. Michael Brown and Kirkpatrick. I had a few baptism tapes, and I watched the official Brownsville documentary a few years ago, when the revival was still going pretty strong.

I appreciated some of the things I saw, some of Hill's sermons (like "The Death of Mr. Me"), but looking back on it all, I can't recognize that anything in particular was imparted unto my spirit by God of eternal measure, and I can't help but compare this to the mighty inner transformation in myself wrought by the Lord speaking through Keith Daniel...without all the crazy laughter and energetic acrobatics and overall carnival atmosphere. Perhaps some soul walked away from Brownsville transformed by God, though I tend to believe the bulk of people experienced the same as I did: a stirring for sure, a temporary high, an undoubtable [i]charge[/i] in the air of the meeting place that was able to excite the soul but really do nothing more in terms of growth toward holiness.

I know that the mere discussion and consideration of these things often leads to soulish disputes and believers' feelings getting hurt. This alone should tell us that we are venturing into the carnal without even having experienced the "revival" in question. There's just something about these types of discussions, much the same as when believers begin discussing tattoos, music, clothes, and any other demonstration or statement on the physical surface of our vessels - which invariably drives us to both ardently defend and attack who we are and what we believe about God. The objects [i]beneath[/i] the surface of our vessels, however: love, patience, humility, righteousness, gentleness of speech, cleanliness of conscience (the real, indisputable impartations of God upon the life of a believer and result of personal revival), these things never once seem to be mentioned in the course of the discussion; I suppose they are quite uninteresting to muse over because of their inability to produce fireworks. The focus is instead always on the physical manifestations and whether or not they are of God, and such has become even in the eys of many the litmus test of real or false revival! Maniacal laughter, weird movements, jerking, shaking, dancing, speaking in tongues, falling down; why, dear brethren, why do all these things have such an allure on us? I would just as soon not attempt to doctrinalize, realizing also that God is also able to sovereignally confound. Oh, brethren, we must love the Word, the God of the Word! We will have understanding then, and safe discernment. He will tell us when to step back and when to stay our hands.

I believe it is because something deeper is still lacking on the inside, a principle within that has yet to be instilled by God, and for this reason we are continually entralled and preoccupied by the outer manifestions and chasing after revivals as vivacioulsy as storm travellers track hurricanes and tornados. But to have met God in the quiet place and experienced the precious genuine communion and holy intimacy with Christ, all these outer manifestations that appear to typify these last day, pocket "revivals" can just seem so brutish, so grotesque....and so unlike the Father I have come to know and cherish in a very personal way. But how do you explain this?


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