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i believe it will be the dire events that will escalate even further toward WWIII, and that just prior, or even a little space after it's onset, the globe will be ripe for the man with the answer, and anti-christ will initially have that answer to peace, and because of it the world will hail him as messiah, and prince of peace ... An American loss in Iraq could very well be the precursor to such a downward spiral ...



Matthew 24 and Revelation 6 will define the world at the beginning of this time. All the security that men seek will disappear. Money, pension, insurance, armies, and governments will be emptied of the security men have placed their faith in. And then the antichrist will be revealed.

Look at the systems surrounding us. What do you see? Can our government keep spending 500 billion more than we have? Can this country keep spending 500 billion more than we earn? Each year the debt increases. This year it will be 1 trillion. What will next year bring? The monetary system we have is basically an illusion. It is backed by the faith men place in paper with ink on it.

Imagine the condition of other countries around the world. Most of us have no idea of what it means to live in third world poverty. What will happen when it is all gone. Will we like the germans of the 1930's take the mark of the beast?

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This is an illustration of the ways of men who use the same tactics of 70 years ago. There is no value in compromising the truth. Man's pragmatic ways defies God.

CNN Article;

Recalling that the Soviets once occupied part of Austria in the aftermath of World War II, Schwarzenegger told the convention on Tuesday: "I saw tanks in the streets. I saw communism with my own eyes."

No way, historians say, challenging Schwarzenegger's knowledge of postwar history -- if not his enduring popularity among Austrians who admire him for rising from a penniless immigrant to the highest official in America's most populous state.

"It's a fact -- as a child he could not have seen a Soviet tank in Styria," the southeastern province where Schwarzenegger was born and raised, historian Stefan Karner told the Vienna newspaper Kurier.

Schwarzenegger, now a naturalized U.S. citizen, was born on July 30, 1947, when Styria and the neighboring province of Carinthia belonged to the British zone. At the time, postwar Austria was occupied by the four wartime allies, which also included the United States, the Soviet Union and France.

The Soviets already had left Styria in July 1945, less than three months after the end of the war, Karner noted.

"Let me tell you this: As a boy, I lived for many years across the street from where the Russians were based in Vienna -- and honestly, I never saw a Russian tank there," retiree Franz Nitsch said Friday. "He said it all on purpose -- and that's bad."

In his convention address, Schwarzenegger also said: "As a kid, I saw the Socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left" in 1955 and Austria regained its independence.

But Martin Polaschek, a law history scholar and vice rector of Graz University, told Kurier that Austria was governed by coalition governments, including the conservative People's Party and the Social Democratic Party. Between 1945 and 1970, all the nation's chancellors were conservatives -- not Socialists.

What's more, when Schwarzenegger left in 1968, Austria was run by a conservative government headed by People's Party Chancellor Josef Klaus, a staunch Roman Catholic and a sharp critic of both the Socialists as well as the Communists ruling in countries across the Iron Curtain.

Schwarzenegger "confuses a free country with a Socialist one," said Polaschek, referring to East European Communist officials' routine descriptions of their countries as Socialist.

Polaschek saw the moderate Republican governor's recollections at the convention as a tactical move. Schwarzenegger, he said, was "using the old Communist enemy image for Bush's election campaign."

"He did not speak as a historian, after all, but as a politician," Polaschek said.

Norbert Darabos, a ranking official of Austria's opposition Social Democratic Party, sharply criticized Schwarzenegger's "disdain for his former homeland."

"The Terminator is constructing a rather bizarre Austria image," he said.

But many ordinary Austrians seemed to be in a forgiving mood Friday over the gaffes.

"Maybe he has a wrong recollection -- it's so many years since he left," said Wilma Fadrany, 32, a Vienna waitress.

"There must be political reasons for such comments," she said. "You've got to tell the (convention delegates) what they want to hear in order to win them over. Politicians always talk the way it fits into their agenda."

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The seeds of Satan are being sowed. Only those who have a love for the truth will overcome.

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Here is a second article on the Govenor of California:

"SACRAMENTO – Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed the first major gay rights legislation to reach his desk yesterday when he approved a bill that would require insurance companies to offer coverage to registered domestic partners.

The governor's office announced his approval late yesterday without any fanfare or even a signing message explaining his decision.

AB 2208, sponsored by Assemblywoman Christine Kehoe, D-San Diego, would require companies that offer health, life, homeowners and auto insurance to offer policies that cover domestic partners in the same way they cover spouses.

Current law requires insurers to offer domestic partners coverage equivalent to a dependent, rather than a spouse.

Gay rights advocates say the bill is a technical fix needed to pave the way for California's domestic partnership law, which takes effect next year. The law gives same-sex registered domestic partners a variety of rights and responsibilities now available only to married couples."

A warning comes to mind, "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them." Matthew 7:18-20

We as Christians must strive to discern all circumstances through the use of Scripture. "But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good
[b]and evil."[/b] Hebrews 5:14

How many are willing to compromise the Truth? Only the love of the truth will enable one to overcome the deception that is to come.

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We have an interesting discussion going on about the works of Satan and you we should pray for the kings of this earth. See 1 Timothy 2:1-4

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While watching the news on tv I have noticed what seems to be a greater magnitude of tv programing promoting sex in one way or another.

Comercial upon comercial displaying a show called Desperate Housewives is saturating the advertisements.

The leaders of the nation of Israel were condemned by the Lord through Jeremiah.

"because they have done disgraceful things in Israel, have committed adultery with their neighbors' wives, and have spoken lying words in My name, which I have not commanded them. Indeed I know, and am a witness, says the Lord." Jeremiah 29:23

"Also I have seen a horrible thing in the prophets of Jerusalem; they commit adultery and walk in lies; they also strengthen the hands of evildoers, so that no turns back from his wickedness. all of them are like Sodom to Me, and her inhabitants like Gomorrah." Jer. 23:14

The powers that be are definitely strengthening the hands of the evil doers.

In Christ
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 Brothers Jeff and Rahman

I only made it to page 6, before I had to tell you both what an invigorating discussion you both are having and respectfully ask if I may join you in this folder?

so much to say, but as you say Jeff,

out of time,
Neil

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Br. Neil,

Looking forward to your fellowship in these thoughts.

The following articles covers one of the influences that our American culture has exported to other continents. It is a long article but it has much value.

[b]GANGS WITHOUT BORDERS CONFOUND THE LAW[/b]

BY GINGER THOMPSON, N.Y. TIMES NEWS SERVICE

San Pedro Sula, Honduras--- Christian Antunez chokes back a scream as the nurse sticks a needle above his left eyebrow.

"Ay mama!" he shouts, "It really hurts." "Don't move," the nurse tells him, sticking him again and again with anesthesia. He pleads for a break. At least four other men, all covered with tattos, are taking needles around him, on their arms and legs, backs and chests. The whining rises from the chairs. One has a tatoo on his scalp. Another has one over his top lip. Yet another on his neck. Antunez, 22, has them everywhere.

The men have all come to this makeshift clinic in a neighborhood ravaged by street violence for a desperate and disfiguring kind of healing; to have their gang tatoos removed.

to be continued.

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"Society thinks we are monsters," Antunez said. "The police want us dead. That's why we do this. If we do not take off these tatoos, we will never be able to live in peace."

The pain, he said, seems a small price for a new life. 'I dream of being clean, even if it means being scarred."

They are gang members, known here as "maras," after a species of swarming ants. Indeed, over the last decade, gangs have spread like a scourge across Central America, Mexico and the United States, setting off a catastrophic crime wave that has turned dirt-poor neighborhoods into combat zones and an equally virulent crackdown that has left thousands of gang members dead, in hiding, in jail or heading [b]to the United States.[/b]

The authorities estimate there are 70,000 to 100,000 gang members across Central America and Mexico. In the last decade, gangs have killed thousands of people, sowing new fear in a region still struggling to overcome civil wars that ended just a decade ago. Gangs have replaced guerrilas as public enemy No. 1.

[b]MANO DURA RULES[/b]

The president of Honduras and El Savador have called the gangs as big a threat to national security as terroism is to the United States. They have revived old counterinsurgency strategies and adopted zero-tolerance laws known as Mano Dura, which loosely translates as "firm hand, " that bypass basic rules of due process and allow them to send young men to prison for nothing more than a gang tatoo.

Instead of offering reassurance, official campaigns inflame public fear. and in the last year, human rights investigators have begun to report alarming increases in the numbers of young men killed by the police and vigilantes.

No one denies that gang violence requires a tough response. No one-not even the nurese who remove his tatoos- feels sympathy for men with brutal histories, like Antunez. But many human rights advocates and community leaders worry that the aggressive measures governments are taking against gangs have not solved the problem as much as they have spread it.

Thousands of gang members are [b]fleeing north[/b], moving with and preying on the waves of illegal migrants who travel to the United States, which is taking aggresive measures of its own and deporting thousands of gang members on immigration violations. The effect is to churn the gangs throughtout the region. As gang members move, the gang culture moves with them. Police departments across the United States call the gangs a top crime problem.

In January, some 72 departments nation wide met to discuss the issue in Los Angeles. Another gang summit meeting by law enforcement authorities will be held in Washington on Thursday.

In Guatemala, the authorities say gun violence will kill 1000 more people this year, compared with two years ago. Gangs, they say, will commit 80 percent of those killings.

The Mexican state of Chiapas, which shares a lawless border with Guatemala, has become another mara hunting ground. Gangs strike in parks and bus stations. Over the last year, gang members reportedly killed more than 70 migrants stowed away on northbound freight trains.

In a rare display of solidarity last year, the governments of Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, and Mexico signed an agreement to begin exploring ways to collaborate in the fight against gangs. They stopped short of adopting measures as tough as those in Honduras and El Salvador.

But in countries crippled by official corruption and impunity, the crackdowns have weakened the rule of law as much as they have stemmed the rise in crime.

Prisons are filled way beyond capacity with young men waithing months before they are formally charged. Overcrowded cellblocks have turned into death traps, with hundreds of gang members killed in suspicious riots and fires.

Some gang members, picked up by the police, never make it to jail. Human rights organizations, including Amnesty International and the Honduras National Commision for Human Rights, have reported incidents of gang memebers being kidnapped, tortured and killed by the same kinds of secret security forces responsible for the disappearance of hundreds of suspected leftists during the civil war years. Commissioner Ramon Custodio has described the killings as a "Slow social cleansing," often involving youths with no criminal records.

to be continued.
In Christ
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Reports by Amnesty International and the State Department have echoed similiar warnings.

"It seems to me that this country is losing, in great measures, the democratic advances that have cost us so much," said Bertha Oliva, director of the Committee for the Relatives of the Disappeared, formed at the height of the Cold War. "In the 1980's, this country said it was OK to dill off its political enemies because they were anti-social. We say the same today about gang members."

The two largest gangs, the Mara Salvatrucha and the Mara 18, [b]began on the streets of Los Angeles. The Salvatruchas gang was started by the children of refugees from U.S. -sponsored civil wars in Central America of the 1980's. Young people started the gangs as support networks, even social clubs.[/b]

Mara 18 was started by Mexican immigrants in the 1970's. Fist fights with rival groups turned to gunfights. Gunfights led to declarations of war. Then in the crackdown by U.S immigration officials, tens of thousands of gang members were sent back to their home countries. At the peak of the program in the mid-1990's, some 40,000 criminal illegal immigrants were sent back each year.

Suddenly, one of the poorest corners of the world, which struggles to meet its people's basic needs, was burdened by a [b]superpower's crime plague.[/b]

Entire neighborhoods were plundered by violent turf wars waged by volatile young men armed with machetes and homemade pipe guns, called chimbas. Homicide rates, especially among men under 30, soared. Law-abiding citizens lived like prisoners in their own homes. Armies and law enforcement agencies that had been scaled down for what was supposed to be a new era of peace were forced to build back up.

[b]RETURNING TO HAUNT U.S.[/b]

Now, with the extraordinary measures by Central American governments driving them away, the rampage had come full circle. [b]The sheer force of illegal immigration has made the Mara Salvatruchas and Mara 18 two of the fastest growing gangs in the United States.[/b]

They are driving crime in cities like Los Angeles, Chicago and the suburbs around Washington, police officials say. They have expanded from their big city bases to make violent debuts in places like [b]Durham NC, Omaha NE, and Nassau County NY.[/b]

A national study by Northeastern University found that while overall crime dropped by more than 20 percent from 1999 to 2002, gang homicides increased by more than 50 percent.

Some of the most shocking violence has played out in the suburbs around Washington, where members of Mara Salvatrucha have been blamed for hacking the hands of a 16-year old rival with a machete, and stabbing a pregnant 17-year old who was an informant in murder investigations.

Metropolitan Los Angeles, with a population almost equal to that of Honduras, remains the [b]world capital of street gangs.[/b], with an estimated 700 different cliques and more than 110,000 gang members. City and county police officials sya half of all homicides they are gang related.

Chief William J. Bratton of the Los Angeles Police Department has described gang members as "[b]domestic terrorists,"[/b] who have received little attention from a society preoccupied with al-Qaida since September 11. In speeches across the country, he has urged other police departments to make gangs their top law enforcement priority and demand increased federal support......."People deserve protection," he added. "And I believe gang members are terrorizing our communities."

end of article.

In Isaiah 30:28, "His breath is like an overflowing stream, which reaches up to the neck, to sift the nations with the sieve of futility; and there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people causing them to err."

This judgement was called on the nations of old, yet do you see His bridle manifesting itself in this generation? There is no protection outside of God.

In Christ
Jeff


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 Dear Lord Jesus

Dear Lord,
please Jesus, raise up missionaries to go into the ranks of these young men. Father let us, the body of believers become their family. Lord, I pray against the spirit that takes young boys away from their earthly fathers. Jesus, please raise up men who will tell them that You are their Father and their Brother, their Alpha and their Omega. Lord You are our Everything. On earth as it is in Heaven. amen

We love You Jesus

 2004/10/13 16:45





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