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 70,000 Christians languish in N. Korean prison camps: U.S. Christian group


[b]70,000 Christians languish in N. Korean prison camps: U.S. Christian group[/b]

SEOUL, Feb. 9 (Yonhap) -- A U.S. religious group said Friday it has placed North Korea on its World Watch List as the worst violator of religious rights for Christians for a fifth straight year, claiming between 50,000 and 70,000 Christians are suffering in prison camps in the communist country.
Open Doors, a Christian activist group founded in 1955, said on its Web site, "the North Korean government hunts Christians all over the country, especially those who try to return from China. Many of them were arrested, tortured and even killed."
In its 2006 annual report, the U.S. government accused North Korea and six other countries of continuing to violate their citizens' religious liberty. The others are Myanmar, China, Iran, Sudan, Eritrea and Saudi Arabia. ...

read more: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/Engnews/20070209/630000000020070209114321E2.html


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Saints,

We must pray for these brothers and sisters in the Lord.


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 Re: 70,000 Christians languish in N. Korean prison camps: U.S. Christian group

Brother Greg,
Please believe me, that is the Spirit that lives within me, one day, soon, the door will be opened, and the Gospel WILL be preached in North Korea. I have seen this, so clearly.

Now, it will be hard even after the door is opened, because it will as be if one was preaching to an alien being, I mean like a space alien, but that is where the Holy Ghost will tear open the crust of delusion that has beset these poor souls for over 50 years. They have been so indoctrinated as to the helish notion that the Kim family are gods, the father Kim Il Song, the son, Kim Jong Il, and the mother of this hellhound. serious, its "preached" as a "holy trinity".

But once the Spirit breaks thru, brother the word "revival" will not be adequate to describe the Move of God that will happen in North Korea.

I must confess, I have been disobedient. For a few years now, God has telling me to burnish my Korean SPEAKING skills, I can read and write in Korean flawlessly, but speaking and understanding, not so good.

Stay on me about this, trust me, stay on me.

I had a Korean pastor speak a word to me a few years back, and he said, if you preach a message in the flawless Korean I hear you read in, and you do it one day in a free North Korea.......

J.Hudson Taylor did it in China, but I am weak, and I am lazy at times, and disobedient, this is a confession, pray for me and stay on me.

Bless you for that post, and pray for North Korea, Jesus covets their souls.

broken bread, neil

 2007/2/9 6:03
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 Re: 70,000 Christians languish in N. Korean prison camps: U.S. Christian group

Bro. Greg,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It is so easy to sit back in our comfort and not remember those who suffer.

I will be praying.


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 Saving North Korea’s Refugees

February 19, 2007
Op-Ed Contributor
Saving North Korea’s Refugees
By NICHOLAS EBERSTADT and CHRISTOPHER GRIFFIN
Washington

THE Bush administration can point to precious few successes in its efforts to curb North Korea’s mounting menace — even last week’s celebrated nuclear deal with Kim Jong-il’s government is, for the moment, little more than a written promise from a highly unreliable negotiating partner.

Yet inexplicably, the Bush team continues to overlook a spectacular opportunity to deliver freedom to tens of thousands of North Koreans, to pressure the country from within for fundamental change and to lay the groundwork for a peaceful, reunified Korean Peninsula. By fostering an underground railroad to rescue North Korean refugees living in China, the United States could do all these things at once.

On humanitarian grounds alone, the case for action on behalf of the wretched North Koreans in hiding north of their country’s border along the Yalu River is compelling. While the exact numbers are unknown, this refugee emergency may be second only to Darfur: the International Crisis Group speaks of scores of thousands of refugees, and recently uncovered Chinese official documents indicate hundreds of thousands.

As illegal immigrants in China (Beijing insists North Korean border-crossers are economic migrants, or worse), they live in constant fear and at terrible risk. Women are forced into the sex trade or coerced marriages; men and children on the run have less obvious utility and thus, by some accounts, correspondingly higher mortality.

Yet the North Korean refugees who end up as victims of exploitation, violence or crime in China may be the lucky ones. A far worse fate awaits those whom China “refouls,” or deports to North Korea in violation of Beijing’s commitments under the United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees. North Korea regards fleeing Kim Jong-il’s paradise as an act of disloyalty close to treason. Captives forcibly returned to North Korea face prison, torture and death, attesting to the refugee status that official Chinese wordplay denies.

Despite a gradually hardening Chinese posture toward this humanitarian crisis (now entering its second decade), over the years a few private groups have been bravely spiriting refugees out of China and into third countries. Intrepid souls like Steve Kim of New York (jailed in China since 2003), Phillip Buck from Seattle (jailed for 15 months in 2005-2006), Adrian Hong (deported last December) and others from America, South Korea and elsewhere have rescued thousands of North Koreans from China, often by way of an arduous 6,000-mile overland journey into Southeast Asia, where North Korean refugees can seek resettlement in states that accept them.

The desperation of North Korean refugees has also attracted unscrupulous entrepreneurs who guide refugees out of China for a profit. This latter-day flesh trade has been criticized by the governments of China and South Korea — each eager, for its own reasons, to discredit any efforts at exodus from North Korea. But whether created by noble motives or mercenary ones, this continuing trickle of escapees proves that a path to freedom already exists. And that trickle would grow if these North Koreans knew they could count on official protection along the way.

Some will worry loudly about international resettlement for tens (never mind hundreds) of thousands of North Korean refugees, but the logistical issues are basically solved in advance: as a matter of national law, South Korea is obliged to welcome them all. Under Articles 2 and 3 of the Republic of Korea’s Constitution, as reaffirmed by the country’s Supreme Court in 1996, every North Korean refugee has the right to resettle in South Korea. Commitments by Washington and other free governments to take in North Korean refugees are desirable and commendable (the United States is already committed to doing so under the North Korean Human Rights Act of 2004), but it is natural and fitting that South Korea should be the destination for the overwhelming majority of North Korea’s freedom-seekers.

The critical missing piece for getting this underground railroad up and running is safe passage through China. But because the South Korean government fears antagonizing the North and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees is too timid to face down Beijing, China’s opposition to this rescue mission has gone unchallenged. Only the United States is in a position to help overcome Beijing’s recalcitrance.

The Chinese government’s cost-benefit calculus regarding these refugees would change drastically if Washington weighed in as their advocate. If the United States (along with other governments) provided informal assurances that China is merely a way station for North Koreans — assuaging any official fears about a permanent foreign refugee population — it may well be possible to convince Beijing to cooperate in the relocation mission (or at least to look the other way as it takes place).

Should it do so, many of the problems that Beijing seems to fear will vanish of themselves: if those refugees can be quickly processed by the United Nations refugee commission or similar offices, for example, Beijing need no longer worry about the risks imposed by a large, illegal population along its border with North Korea.

Additionally, with United States leadership, Seoul and the United Nations lose their cover for ignoring the North Korean refugee crisis. The governments and organizations that have responded to the calamity in Darfur could also be rallied to the front lines for North Korean refugees. And, under the international spotlight, Seoul would be forced to observe its constitutional pledge of citizenship for all Koreans despite the current South Korean government’s obvious reluctance to displease Kim Jong-il on any issue.

Humanitarian rescue of North Korean refugees will also materially advance United States security interests. Mass defections from North Korea strike at the heart of the Kim regime, giving the lie to the myths upon which North Korean rule is based. This would further undercut the regime’s authority and legitimacy, and force it for the first time to respond to the concerns of its subjects. A North Korean underground railroad is only a first step toward an entirely free Korean Peninsula, but a terribly important one.

Bringing North Korean refugees to freedom will redound only to America’s strategic advantage and will give tangible proof to the seriousness of this country’s freedom agenda. America — and any American president — could take pride in such a legacy.

Nicholas Eberstadt is on the board of the United States Committee for Human Rights in North Korea. Christopher Griffin is a research associate at the American Enterprise Institute.

 2007/2/19 8:58
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 Re: Saving North Korea’s Refugees

Here are some resources for anyone interested in praying for North Korea:

Open Doors USA: http://www.opendoorsusa.org/
Open doors is the foremost english language resource for persecution in North Korea -they have a lot of information available online and in print.

Voice of the Martyrs: http://www.persecution.com/ http://www.persecution.net/
Another great resource for information about North Korea and other persecution of Christians around the globe.

Mission News Network: http://www.mnnonline.org/
Has news coverage of Christian missions around the world, including persecution, but also encouragement. (Will usually have the top stories from Open Doors, VOM, GFA, World Vision etc.)


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Since, I live less than 200 miles from the North Korean border and my fiancee is Korean, this hits 'close to home'. Koreans are always in my prayers, especially the North.

Pastor Yongi Cho, of Yoido Full Gospel Church (800,000+ members) www.fgtv.com (English) and his mother bought land on a mountain several years ago and named it Prayer Mountain. It is for anyone to spend time with the Lord, but its original intention was for prayer to be directed towards the North, as close to the demilitarized zone as possible..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer_Mountain

I would like to be able to do more...learning Korean is one thing.

God Bless Korea (North and South),
BrianMira

 2007/2/24 3:40









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Quote:

bartle wrote:
...the Spirit that lives within me...one day, soon, the door will be opened, and the Gospel WILL be preached in North Korea. I have seen this, so clearly....

...once the Spirit breaks thru, brother the word "revival" will not be adequate to describe the Move of God that will happen in North Korea....

I must confess, I have been disobedient. For a few years now, God has telling me to burnish my Korean SPEAKING skills, I can read and write in Korean flawlessly, but speaking and understanding, not so good.

Stay on me about this, trust me, stay on me.

I had a Korean pastor speak a word to me a few years back, and he said, if you preach a message in the flawless Korean I hear you read in, and you do it one day in a free North Korea.......

J.Hudson Taylor did it in China, but I am weak, and I am lazy at times, and disobedient, this is a confession, pray for me and stay on me.

Bless you for that post, and pray for North Korea, Jesus covets their souls.

broken bread, neil




Brother Neil...


Stay on me about this, trust me, stay on me...

Stay on me about this, trust me, stay on me...

Stay on me about this, trust me, stay on me...



...if you preach a message ...
...if you preach a message ...
...if you preach a message ...


...pray for me and stay on me.
...pray for me and stay on me.
...pray for me and stay on me.

Just thought I'd remind ya... :-(

As you know... English speaking Pastors here are in demand, not to mention a Foreign-English-Korean speaking Preacher...

Just thought I'd remind ya... :roll:

...I have a couch...

God Bless those that answer their calling,
BrianMira

P.S. I know I am not in the North, but the South would be a great place to start. I, too, believe that someday very SOON the doors will be opened and I will finally learn what everyone has been talking about in what they refer to as 'revival'!

 2007/2/24 3:56









 Brother Brian

I take your post as a Word, and as a Leading of the Lord and have PM'ed you as such.

there are NO accidents in the Economy of God.

none.

I praise and thank God for His Grace, and I praise Him for that day, when the North will hear the Gospel of Jesus, the Prince of Peace.

It's going to happen, and may He allow a cracked clay jar such as myself, such as you, to join Him in this mighty endeavour.

Up north, there is a hunger deeper than any shrunken belly, they will fill themselves on the Word of the Living God, sweet as honey, and they will follow the Jesus, their KIng, their Savior, and they will repent, and weep, and the Fire will fall. Revival in Pyongyang, revival in Hamhung, revival in Sinouju, revival in Najin, right up to the Tumen and the Yalu, village to village to village. Once that was dead, now alive in Christ Jesus. Oh Lord hear our prayers, please God, as Your Will, let it all be peaceful, no war, no fear. I ask you God, wean the fear out of the power structure of the North Korean leadership, amen.

Those will be great days brother, may He allow us to join Him.

My prayers to you and yours, who are already there, I long for the day to see you all

in Jesus' love, neil

 2007/2/24 14:54
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remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.
hebrews 13:3

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