If a homosexual couple was married and had children and one of them came to Jesus Christ. Would not they have to break up the family to truly bring forth works meet for repentance that brings salvation?If Jesus calls remarriage adulterous should not those who are remarried bring forth works meet for repentance also. It does not matter if a person was remarried before they came to Christ, they need to repent.
_________________Cindy
Some say a homosexual marriage is not really a marriage, therefore it falls into a different category. I personally do not see a difference.
If God does not "join" the homosexuals as One
At least I haven't been able to find such a teaching in God's Word.
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Something else Id like to add without causing too much offense is that we really have to wonder about someones level of understanding about 'marriage' in the bible to even suggest that there is even a remote similarity between a marriage (even an unlawful one) and the abomination between two men.I really think this shows one of two things.Either some are acting in desperation in trying to prove their error, grasping at any straw they can.Or they are not as studied on the topic of marriage as it is presented in Gods word as a whole.There is no way a person could READ the whole bible and ever logically conclude that a male/male abomination could be even compared to even a sinful relationship between a man and a woman who arent even married (who under the law could simply have married and never divorced).
FOC, while taking the points you are making about the act of physical union necessary for a marriage to exist at all - that is, the point at which God makes two people one or He doesn't (make them 'one'), I think Cindy is referring to the civil legality of being able to call a person one's spouse - not that I would accord that to either in a homosexual union, because it totally undermines the meaning of the word 'spouse' and reduces it to something unspeakable, not elevates it to a status where God Himself would be pleased to call us His.Cindy said:
Id make sure to clarify what point it is you are agreeing with cindy on (as you did, of course)...so you dont confuse the readers into thinking that two men can ever be seen as anything but abomination before God.In agreement with the rest of your post, it really doesnt matter how secular government defines 'marriage' as far as God and His word goes.I defy cindy or anyone to present even the first passage that ever implies or alludes to two men even having the ability to be 'married'.Even UNLAWFULLY married, Philips 'marriage' to Herodias WAS acknowledged by John the baptist as cindy often likes to point out...yet she has NO scripture showing this absurdity that men can 'marry' men before God....apples and oranges.In that she is completely wrong...there is no actual comparison to Gods union of marriage created by Him in the beginning with the abomination of two men pretending like they have some 'right' to be joined (even before Him).Secular laws at times have permitted abortion....does that mean it isnt murder in Gods eyes? No, it doesnt. Secular lawmakers dont get to redefine what God has already defined...murder is pretty much taking of innocent human life.So...are we accepting civil definitions for marriage or are we sticking to what Gods word presents?I really wasnt interested in what MAN calls marriage but what Gods shows that it is. :)additionally, I do agree with you dorcas, that no ceremony would be required to make a man and woman 'married'...altho I believe adamantly that there must be something that occurs between them and God that acknowledges that their intent is to be 'married' and faithful before Him for life...meaning that I dont believe that 'sex' makes a marriage but a covenant.
I dont believe that 'sex' makes a marriage but a covenant.
I always thought scripture in the NT dealing with divorce & remarriage was quite plain and simple to understand. But after reading this thread I feel like my head is gonna explode! We here on this forum sure have a way of simplifying the complex and complicating the obvious! LOLKrispy
KrispyKrittr wrote:I always thought scripture in the NT dealing with divorce & remarriage was quite plain and simple to understand. But after reading this thread I feel like my head is gonna explode! We here on this forum sure have a way of simplifying the complex and complicating the obvious! LOLKrispy
I'm curious, Krispy... what do you understand the NT to teach in regard to divorce and remarriage? I agree that those who come to the Word of God without an agenda, and are honest intellectually, will understand God's heart.