The prefect says to Justin, |Hearken, you who are called learned, and think that you know true doctrines; if you are scourged and beheaded, do you believe you will ascend into heaven?| Justin said, |I hope that, if I endure these things, I shall have His gifts. For I know that, to all who have thus lived, there abides the divine favour until the completion of the whole world.| Rusticus the prefect said, |Do you suppose, then, that you will ascend into heaven to receive some recompense?| Justin said, |I do not suppose it, but I know and am fully persuaded of it.| Rusticus the prefect said, |Let us, then, now come to the matter in hand, and which presses. Having come together, offer sacrifice with one accord to the gods.| Justin said, |No right-thinking person falls away from piety to impiety.| Rusticus the prefect said, |Unless ye obey, ye shall be mercilessly punished.| Justin said, |Through prayer we can be saved on account of our Lord Jesus Christ, even when we have been punished, because this shall become to us salvation and confidence at the more fearful and universal judgment-seat of our Lord and Saviour.| Thus also said the other martyrs: |Do what you will, for we are Christians, and do not sacrifice to idols.|